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Guest:
Thanks Michael,
From what I already knew and what I\'ve read from the handbook so far, I\'m forming a few ideas already. I need to find the last edition of the handbook from when I first joined the club, I seem to have misplaced it. I don\'t think I\'m missing more than the winter edition of the bulletin, I picked up the others while I was at the show.

So far it looks like OE game bantams, Orpington, some Polish and some Australorp have been included in various strains of current Ameraucanas. Since many of the past crosses are murky areas I\'m only concerning myself with the major and more recent additions.

Do you think the opportunity will come up in the near future, for you to chat with the longtime club members you mention? Their knowledge would certainly be of great benefit to current and future members.

Dan Demarest
Missouri

bantamhill:
I\'m hoping to be able to gather more information around the LF especially.

Michael

Guest:
Good evening.

Okay, I\'ve read the 2005 handbook (still looking for the previous one in my files). I wanted to verify what I\'ve read before getting ahead of myself, as I\'m already getting several ideas going on-on top of the Ameraucana projects I\'m already working on.

Aside from the wheaten family, we\'re gaining the duckwing family in the Silvers and the other colors/patterns are based on birchen. This gives us E^R, e^wh and e+ at the E-locus to work with. These E-locus alleles as well as many other genetic factors have largely come from Buff Orpington, Light Brown Leghorn, Black Australorp (an Orpington derivative) Old English, Wyandotte and some inclusion of Polish. Is this correct? Did I miss any breeds?

Please forgive me for oversimplifying all of the above, I\'m just trying to get a broad over head view of recent genetic influences.

Regards,
Dan Demarest
Missouri

John:

--- Quote ---many other genetic factors have largely come from Buff Orpington, Light Brown Leghorn, Black Australorp (an Orpington derivative) Old English, Wyandotte and some inclusion of Polish. Is this correct? Did I miss any breeds?
--- End quote ---

I used an over sized recessive white bantam cock from Jerry Segler over LF buff Orpingtons, white Orpingtons and black Australops to produce those three varieties originally.  Once again this is just what I did...others developed these same varieties also.  I have since used buff laced Polish to get slate legs on the buffs and reduce the fluff.  I have made a second Australop cross to bring down the tail carriage and improve type in the blacks and blues.  I then crossed blacks with whites to bring the nice type and size over onto the whites.
I don\'t know of any light brown Leghorn or Wyandotte crosses, although I do know silver Leghorn was bred to LF silvers and buff Wyandotte was used to create bantam buffs.

Guest:
Thank you John.

I think that gives me enough to go on for now.

Dan Demarest
Missouri

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