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Mike Gilbert:
John,
OK, so you know the lavender gene is present in this cockerel, so why not use him back over his mother, then mate this same cockerel back over his daughters the following year.   I think that would be a good plan  to get some large fowl lavenders.   You did save the mama, right??
If not, take this cockerel and mate him with black, then use those daughters with this male.   You would have to save quite a few daughters, as there would be no guarantee they would be  carrying the recessive lavender gene.   Theoretically half of them should.

Mike

John:
Wrong.  I didn\'t save his mama.  I wanted to cut back and got rid of the old \"smokey\" birds.  The rest of your story is my plan.  I just wish I could tell which pullets will be carrying the lavender.  Black seems to be dominant over smokey too.  If some chicks hatched out smokey, then I would only keep the black pullets assuming they would be 1/2 lavender.

Mike Gilbert:
Is there any chance \"smokey\" is a type of modified lavender?
The cockerel looks pretty close to lavender on my computer screen.

Mike

Guest:
Hi guys,
I don\'t have a lot of time this evening/morning but wanted to point out something John, that I forgot to mention at Sedalia. Smoky is an actual gene mutation at the Dominant White locus. It was studied by a student as part of his thesus in a European university. I\'d have to dig through some files to find the specifics, but I\'ll try to do this from memory for now.

Smokey, \" I^S \", is a really odd gene. In the heterozygous form it expresses in the chick down, but not in the adult plumage. This is \"very peculiar\" in the genetic world. In the Homozygous form, it expresses as a co-dominant gene, diluting a normally black plumaged bird to a \"true blue\". It wouldn\'t be nearly as light as what your bird is. It would appear as a \" Bl\" type of blue, what we know as a blue heterozygote.

I can only say one thing about your bird.......FANTASTIC! It\'s not, in my opinion, heterozygous for Domiannt White. If it were, I would expect it to be mostly or partially white, with blotches of color rendomly placed on the body. Your bird has well defined lacing! Hold on to that bird please, it\'s got something special! Just going by what you\'ve told me/us, I\'d say it\'s either got I^d \" dun\" or a new mutation at the Dominant white locus.

Getting back to the Lavender side of things, I would go with Mike\'s recommendation of mating over black females. I would go further to recommend that you divide the offspring from that point, saving all the black offspring for a group mating of siblings until you figure out which ones are the carriers of the lavender gene, and breeding the \"dun-like\" offspring either to new black females or to themselves.

You\'ve got a gold mine in that bird John, take good care of him. ;)

Regards,
Dan Demarest
Missouri

bantamhill:
Due to some warm weather I am getting eggs from my F1 pens from the bantam self blue cross and the self blue x large fowl black Ameraucana are producing again.

Michael

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