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Lavender (Isabelle) Wheaten Project
Mike Gilbert:
Are you sure the hen is lavender wheaten? It seems to me she should be wheaten colored with just lavender in the tail and wings instead of all over the body. This one may be based on extended black instead of wheaten, with just some \"gold\" leakage? My guess would be she is split E/eWh.
To my untrained eye she just looks like a \"soiled\" lavender.
Guest:
The english hen?? I myself have not hatched out a 100% Lavender wheaten yet. So far the statistics are holding tru in my hatches. I get mostly visually blacks, and few wheaten and lavenders. Just need to get lucky on the lav wheaten lotto. The chick above is a lavender split wheaten, meaning it is missing one wheaten gene. I have notice the when you get a split wheaten roo, the wheaten coloration is still expressed except for the tan triangle on the roosters wing and there is some \"lacing?\" in the chest area. The split wheaten hens look nothing like a wheaten. Once I hatch a 100% lavender wheaten I will put it over wheatens to create wheaten split lavenders. Once that phase is complete they will breed like any other lavender bird except they will be EwhEwh not EE.
Mike Gilbert:
Yes, I was referring to the English hen. I would not call her any kind of wheaten.
John:
--- Quote ---I have notice the when you get a split wheaten roo, the wheaten coloration is still expressed except for the tan triangle on the roosters wing and there is some \"lacing?\" in the chest area.
--- End quote ---
Something to consider...that sounds like a brown red, Birchen (ER) based bird. Is it possible the lavender you started with is ER, rather than E? If so the description would match what I would expect from a ER/e^wh.
Remember, if someone with ER based blacks crosses them with E based lavenders they may produce ER/ER lavenders which would have a tendency to allow more silver/gold show.
Guest:
Ok, well anyway, the coloration I am looking for is cream and lavender. Lavender where the black tips would be obviously. I am two years into this project and not about to give up. I have bought from reputable lines (Jean, Harry and John) and spent countless hours researching. I started recorded keeping after my first ooooppps...darn sneaky ee roo, which is no longer here. I only have ameraucanas and marans now. Everything is coming out exactly like the genetics calculators and all my research has stated.
Most of this has been discussed here when another member was trying to create a lavender wheaten. I believe she gave up here flock for personal reasons.
The rooster came from Jean. Had him over nighted a couple years ago. I am pretty sure he is 100% pure for EE.
So I will keep up my efforts and I will keep you all posted with pictures. I am 100% positive I am going in the right direction with the correct genes. Like any project the finer details will be improved upon over the generations. Even the lavenders and wheatens are still being improved. By the way, John, I gave those two lavenders away.
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