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greeneggsandham:
  Well, that dang \"brother\" that I used this year, attacked me this morning!  My hubby is ready to target practice on him.
  That rooster has never shown aggression towards me before.  I had taken a young pullet from the pen and brought her out in the sunshine to get a good look at her and next thing you know, I\'m getting flogged.  Now I can understand if I was holding a cockeral, but it was a young pullet.
  Dang it hurts!  I was bleeding in three places and my ankle feels like it\'s been sprained!  Can hardly walk. My hubby always told me it hurts like heck, but I never really thought it would be this bad.

Kirstie:

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Maybe it was a good move.  Eye color in the LF blacks has been a problem although it is getting better.  When ever we do an out-cross some unwanted traits come with the package.  Sometimes it is worth it and sometimes it is better to backtrack.

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At what age is it safe to evaluate eye color?

John:

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I\'m in my late 50s and I can know do it safely.
I would imagine the birds would be mature at about 6 months and that may be a good age for them.

OldChurchEggery:
I'm bringing up this topic even though it's quite old because I'm curious about potential recessive white coming from buffs. Back in June I let a broody blue Ameraucana hen hatch some eggs of uncertain origin, mostly just to see if she'd prove herself. Some were from my pair of blacks, but the black hen may have been covered by a buff cock I had at the time. Everything hatched out black except for one yellow chick. The group is almost 4 months old now and the cockerel in question is bright white with light slate legs. Since the horrible heat wave in mid-June killed all of the potential parents involved, I don't have a way of test mating to figure out where the white came from. Has anyone had recessive white crop up in buffs or is it more likely to have come from the blacks? Once they're mature I suppose I could try crossing him over one of the two black pullets from the same hatch and see what happens. I would appreciate any thoughts on it in the meantime, though, since it could be a while before the pullets begin to lay.

John:

--- Quote ---Has anyone had recessive white crop up in buffs or is it more likely to have come from the blacks?
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I'm assuming you are referring to LF.  I hatch a good number of both varieties each year and don't remember seeing any white chicks from either in recent years.  Recessive genes can be there, yet hid very well for many generations.  It just takes the right mating and walla (voila), it appears like magic.
Whites were used different times and by different breeders to improve some of the traits of the buffs.

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