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developing a lemon blue
Guest:
Alouez,
I have been studying chicken genetics for four years now. I have read many abstracts, numerous papers and a number of books. I spend about 5-10 hours a week doing research and finding information. I have a degree in biology and chemistry. I am still learning about how it all fits together. There are still numerous traits of the chicken that have a genetic componenet that have not been documented. Stuff happens. Good luck. As Thurman said, keep good records.
Cubalaya Genetics- Lemon blue Variety male
pea comb- P/P
white skin - W+/W+
sex linked dermal melanin inhibitor- Id/Id
e locus- ER/ER -birchen
sex linked gold s+/s+
white egg shell o+/o+
long tailed Gt/Gt, Mt+/Mt+
Bl/bl+ blue feather color
large fowl size- sex linked normal -Dw+/Dw+
white ear lobe- polygenetic
Chew on that information for a while.
Rooster
Guest:
There may also be local classes to take on genetics. I plan to pursue genetics as a potential major in a few years. Grades have been good enough to go practically anywhere (I plan for a Cornell summer veterinary course!).
If you can find someone local to help teach you that could be invaluable as well.
There are two or three books that I can think of off the top of my head but they all cost around $200 off of amazon.
Here\'s just a few random sites off of my favorite list:
Interesting, has comments: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4175/genes.html
Almost dead, has some good stuff:
http://groups.msn.com/PoultryGenetics
Plans out most common crosses even though in DAnvers:
I LOVE THIS SITE!
http://home.ezweb.com.au/~kazballea/belgians/lowgraphic.htm
http://www.birdfarm.bravepages.com/blugenex.html
http://groups.msn.com/CHICKENCHRONICLES/geneticstudies.msnw
grisaboy:
You should be able to make some nice lemon blues without going outside the breed. Find the best brown red that you can find and cross to the best splash or blue that you can find.
Breed the best blue birds with some yellow in the hackles back to the brown red. You should have some nice lemon blue birds in two generations.
You could make them with Cubalaya or Old English, and get the correct color in one or two generations. But it will take many more generations to correct for type and egg color issues that you will get from the other breeds.
Curtis
Guest:
I have found some errors in the genetics presented on some of the sites I have reviewed.
The Bantam Roost Site.
The sex linked gold gene is s+ not G. Gold is recessive to sex linked silver and is found at the same locus or place on the chromosome.
There is no documented ar gene or autosomal red.
There is no Ab gene for autosomal barring or Lg or Sp genes.
Genetics of Belgian Barbu Bantams & Links Site
There is no recessive black. Everthing else looks good.
Three peas bird farm site.
Stay away from this site he does not know his genetics.
The Marsa Sellers site- Genetics for the non professional is very good and is backed by the latest research.
Rooster
Guest:
The bantam roost site got its stuff from an older text so I expect quite a bit to be out of date. I think it was 1983??
I didn\'t see the recessive black bit. Where is it?
For a fun read to see how much genetic knowledge has increased in recent years, check out R. B. Hutt\'s Genetics of the Fowl. I enjoyed seeing how in about 50 years almost every piece of knowledge (except for recessive and dominant white) has been rewritten.
The peafowl page has gotten great reviews and poor ones. Since there aren\'t many pages on peafowl genetics...there it is. I haven\'t read it yet personally but when I find an interesting site I bookmark it.
Not even Sellers is complete...but it is the best out there.
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