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John

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« on: January 09, 2012, 05:16:37 PM »
I received a \"U.S. Census of Agriculture Report\" in the mail today that says \"YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW\".  They will be happy that I am responding, since they did provide a stamped envelope, but they won\'t be happy with my little note saying \"No Thanks - I pay taxes on my income & the rest is my business\".
There is a US Census every 10 years that is required and I sent that in with only the truly required information.  
In this ag census they want to know my sex, age and all kinds of personal financial information that is none of their business!  The say \"the information you provide is confidential and will not be provided to any individual or organization\".  I saved them the trouble by not providing the confidential information to them, so they don\'t have to keep any secrets.

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 05:36:29 PM »
I usually respond with estimates, but I agree with you in principle.  Big Brother is totally out of control.   I have not received my survey form yet, but it will probably be in the mailbox soon.  

Beth C

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2012, 05:47:44 PM »
I haven\'t gotten one - what puts you on their radar?

Mike Gilbert

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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 06:45:37 PM »
I have a farm operation and also rent some farm land.

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 06:56:53 PM »
I received the same letter.  I am curious as to what transpires when:

\" If you do not reply, you may personally visited or you may receive a phone call.\"

Sounds threatening that I may be \"personally visited...\"    Should I have cookies ready?


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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 07:15:57 PM »
If you want to stay off their radar, don\'t claim farm income or expenses on your taxes.  We had to fill those out years ago for our very, very small cattle raising operation.  Pain.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 07:30:21 PM »
I got one two or three years ago and threw it in the garbage.  No one stopped by.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012, 08:30:41 AM »
Ours came yesterday. I\'m wondering if good ol\' Google didn\'t tip them off. The satellite view of our property makes it pretty obvious we\'ve got something going on. That or the folks at Southern States and Tractor Supply who always ask for your phone number or zip code when you check out.

Either way, I did complete ours and sent it back today. With the changes to the Farm Bill, the USDA may be conducting the survey to see what\'s happening in the supply chain and which research areas to prioritize for funding. I get their publication, \"Agricultural Research,\" at the office and they do have a number of initiatives to encourage young people to pursue careers in agriculture. If they find through their census that a good number of young people are investing heavily in farm capital, they may provide special grant and loan packages or offer training/outreach through the land grant colleges. Since I work in university research, I\'ll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2012, 11:38:12 AM »
I thought NPIP might be to blame, since it\'s a federal program, but I didn\'t get one last year. But several of my friends with goats have gotten them, and one DID get a visit, in fact, she came home to find the person in her pasture with her animals! She was much nicer than I would have been. But, although I belong to ADGA and am enrolled in the Scrapie\'s Program (required to show), and now NPIP, knock on wood I haven\'t heard from them. But I have a renewed interest in LGDs...

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2012, 12:47:07 PM »
I got my very 1st one. I\'ve owned acrage for over 20 years, had cattle & horses. We did the NPIP 3 years ago. I have never claimed income from my property.  I should get a 1099 off of paypal this year, but that should not be traced back to AG for I could be selling anything. Don\'t know why I got one now. I also don\'t like to put personal info for big brother to know.

Mike Gilbert

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2012, 12:53:34 PM »
Unless somebody has seen your operation and reported it to Dept of Ag, it must be the NPIP enrollment.  Apparently with some levels of government the left hand does know what the right hand is doing afterall.   Quite surprising.

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2012, 01:30:42 PM »
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the person in her pasture

I would take pictures of them trespassing and then escort them off my property with a gun in hand.
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Quite surprising.

...he said in jest.

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2012, 01:39:39 PM »
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the person in her pasture

I would take pictures of them trespassing and then escort them off my property with a gun in hand.


Ditto, but the woman was all gushy nice about how cute the goats were and she just couldn\'t resist petting them and my friend let it go. She won\'t fare as well here. There\'s a UPS driver out there somewhere who will likely never open another gate again...

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 06:51:51 PM »
I don\'t think it is because of NPIP.  My NPIP is in my name only and I just got my survey today.

It has my husbands name on it.

We have a cattle brand registered with the State of WA from when we were raising beefalo, I imagine this is where they got the information from.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 09:43:54 PM »
I haven\'t gotten one yet but I wanted to say good on ya John.  I echo all the sentiments about Big Brother being totally out of control.  

Thus far, my birds are still a hobby vice a business.  Meaning they cost me money rather than make me money.  Maybe that\'s why I haven\'t gotten one but I also haven\'t gotten the NPIP due to the new stupid law that was passed a year or two ago.

If I do get one, I\'ll be sending the same thing that you did, John!

God Bless,