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White tail fluff
Mike Gilbert:
--- Quote from: greeneggs&ham ---Question. Are we talking about just white fluff being a DQ or any color fluff on any color bird?
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Nobody said it is a DQ. It is considered a defect.
Jean:
I found the page in the SOP you were referring to. It is a defect and it specifically says:
Tail:
(a) All parti-colored varities:
1. Excessive white fluff at base of tail..... 1 (point cut)
Again this is why I asked to poster to check the fluff to see if it in fact was white or slate. Slate fluff would be allowed. It is only a 1 point cut, which in my mind is not a \"serious\" fault. I would say it is undesireable in a show bird.
The poster has not come back to let us know anymore about the bird, so given that lack of detail we couldn\'t really say to use the bird as a breeder or not.
Tailfeathers:
That is exactly what the SOP says. The problem with that definition is the same problem with many descriptions in the SOP... what exactly does excessive mean?
Obviously the term is relative to who is doing the viewing/judging and will mean one thing to some and another to others.
Therefore I submit that it would be the safest and best to breed for a total absence of fluff - of any color. Id\' be willing to be good money that slate-colored fluff would be just as big a deduction as white and I doubt arguing over the color with a judge would have much impact.
Notice \"Walt\" says it would be a deduction for a solid colored bird too - even there I don\'t think there is any mention of that in the SOP anywhere.
Put two birds side-by-side together, one with fluff showing and one without, and I\'d bet the one with no fluff would win hands down every time.
Now, I\'m a relative Newbee to showing poultry so take my comments for what they\'re worth. As for my birds, I\'m gonna try and keep all the fluff out. On the tails that is.
God Bless,
Schroeder:
--- Quote from: Jean ---I found the page in the SOP you were referring to. It is a defect and it specifically says:
Tail:
(a) All parti-colored varities:
1. Excessive white fluff at base of tail..... 1 (point cut)
Again this is why I asked to poster to check the fluff to see if it in fact was white or slate. Slate fluff would be allowed. It is only a 1 point cut, which in my mind is not a \"serious\" fault. I would say it is undesireable in a show bird.
The poster has not come back to let us know anymore about the bird, so given that lack of detail we couldn\'t really say to use the bird as a breeder or not.
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I believe the fluff to be slate, rather than pure white. Here is a photo, although it is hard to judge color from a flash photo.
Mike Gilbert:
When tails are held at the proper angle (40 to 45 degrees above horizontal) and there is adequate saddle and tail covert feathers, the problem with fluff tends to go away. Fluff is just undercolor that is not properly covered by the outer feathers. The standard was written specifically to call for a \"smooth transition\" between back and tail so that breeders would raise birds without this fault. How would I know? I wrote the ABA standard for bantams and later edited/approved the standard for the APA as written by Prof. John Skinner, who was Chairman of the APA standard committee at the time.
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