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Guest:
All:

I\'m going to start hatching out some Ameraucana eggs end of Feb./early March. I have two Silver roos, a silver hen, and two wheaten hens. I also have 4 RIR hens. OK, the easy part. I know what happens when you mate an Ameraucana with an RIR --you get a mutt, an Easter egger. So, I\'m not going to set any brown eggs. I\'ll only set the sky blue ones, so that means I\'m setting eggs from either a silver or a wheaten. Silver and silver is easy.

So...

1. What is the result of a male silver mated with a female wheaten?

2. Is the result a disqualified bird for showing purposes? (not because I intend to show, but I may sell or give away some of my hatchlings -- I need to know so I can be honest with whoever gets them).

Thanks.

--Ron

Mike Gilbert:
Ron,  I don\'t believe I have ever made that cross, but I do know the wheatens are sex linked gold (s) and the silvers are sex linked silver (S).   You would have a hybrid, not showable.
But if you do go ahead with your plans and raise a few of these up, how about sharing with the rest of us what you get:
chick down color, color of males, color of females, etc.   I suspect you would get some that resemble somewhat  the Salmon Faverolles color, but these of course would not breed true.
Thanks.

Mike G.

Guest:
Mike,

Thank you.

I\'m going to start end of Feb/early March, so I\'ll post here near the end of March.

--Ron

Guest:
Salmon faverolles are silver wheaten birds.  Silver is not completely dominate so what you will get on the male side , S/s+, will be a male that is straw colored where they would normally be gold on a wheaten bird.

The females, S/-, will be silver wheaten and look similar to a female salmon faverolle. The females will be grayer because of the silver.

That would be my guess.  I have not personally made the cross but have experienced the straw color in S/s+ males.

Rooster

grisaboy:
Ron,
This is how I started my strain of Silver Bantams by crossing a silver duckwing Old English Bantam with a Wheaton Ameraucana Bantam Hen.  
A Silver male over wheaton females will give you silverish males and wheatonish females.  By this I mean the males will look like silvers but have yellowish color where they should be white.  Mine also have had a lot of red in the shoulders. (I\'m still fighting this by the way).  The females look like bad colored wheatons.  I would get rid of the males and cross the females back to your original silver males.  You should get nice silver females in this second mating.
The advantage of doing this cross is to improve type in the Silvers, assuming of course that the wheatons are of better type, and it can improve the wing bar in the males, as a lot of silver males have a weak wing bar where as the wing bar on Wheatons is pretty solid.
The disadvantage, as I mentioned, is that you will get a lot of males with red colors in the wings.
This is a good cross to improve silver females.
You could also generate Silver Wheatons from this cross.  Silver Wheaton Males should look just like Silver males.  The females would be a very pale wheaton color.  I suspect that you would have the same wing color issues.

Curtis

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