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grisaboy:
Rooster,
There is something different with these white headed birds.
Another factor or combination of factors that I can\'t quite figure out.
I know that some of the ones I have are at least part wild type e+, But they still don\'t have the salmon breast.  I don\'t think they have eb because I don\'t have anything on my farm that have eb except bantam cochins.  They could be wheaton since I do have some of them.  I do have some E^R birds out there, but they tend to be mostly black or brown red or birchen.  These birds came from uncontrolled matings so I can\'t say for sure.
I suspect that these birds are wheaton e^wh with Db (like Gingers in OEs) and maybe something else.  The backs on mine are not solid color, not quite stippled either (I wish they were).  They have a lot of shafting.  Also, some of them will have black beards which contradicts the theory of the beard being the same color as the breast.  This coloration shows up more in females, but I did get a white headed male last year, so this trait may be sex linked.  Most of the males I have are black breasted like e+ or e^wh.  I have seen an OE color called Mealy Gray that looks similar.
What do you think?

Curtis

Guest:
Curtis,

I do not think it is Db. Db has little or no effect on the salmon breasts of e+ birds. It may cause the salmon to be a bit lighter. Db has little effect on wheaten color in females.  Males that are e+,eb or ewh and Db/db+ will have red tips on the breast feathers like they are spangled.

I would say they are wheaten/birchen. Birchen can sometimes be incompletely dominate to wheaten. Hens that are ewh/ER will be brown like the bark brown leghorns. They will have small patches of black stippling and not dots.
Wheaten would help clear the black from the heads of the birds leaving the silver to color the heads.

Columbian will clear the salmon from the breast of e+ birds. If they carry silver that will cause the breasts to be white and not salmon. Any chance they have columbian in them?

When the birds were chicks did they have dark brown down? ewh/ER chicks have a dark brown down.

Check the under color of your birds, I bet the muffs are the same color as the under color on your birds. All of my muffed birds have muffs the same color as their under color. I have birds with red muffs, blue muffs, black muffs and white muffs. I have a red pyle easter egger that has white muffs.

I do not know the genetics behind mealy gray.

That is all I can think of for the moment.

Rooster

grisaboy:
I looked up Mealy gray in one of my books and they are E^R birchen with Db.  But I don\'t think  these birds are E^R because if they are, I should be getting some birchen or brown red chicks from them.
Its possible that they are E.  I don\'t know much about E and how it interacts with other pattern genes. I always thought E would act like E^R.
Columbian genes are possible.  I think some strains of wheaton have Columbian genes.
I don\'t keep many of these birds.  They are just a few running loose out in the barn.  The hens are excellent setters and mothers so I let them hatch a few chicks for me each year.  They are good at hiding their nests so that is how I always end up with a few more.  The rooster that is with them is beautiful Golden color.  He is a Wheaton/Silver cross.  I have kept him around because I like his color and as a third string breeder for my silvers.  I know he carries the Silver gene and I could get some Silver chicks out of him if I lost all of my other Silver males.  

Curtis

Guest:
Thanks for all the information, we are new to ameraucanas or easter eggers, which ever these are. I am trying to research the information ya\'ll have told me, right now its all cana foreign language. I do really enjoy reading the information on here and learning alot about the breed, thanks.

grisaboy:
Larklin?
Are you still coming to this site?
I was wondering if you hatched any chicks from you bantams, and if you could tell us what the chicks look like?

Curtis

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