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Sharon Yorks:
I am seriously debating on whether or not to renew my certification this year. I want to be able to ship chicks and was under the understanding that you had to be NPIP certified to do that. After talking with a breeder who says he's been shipping chicks and hatching eggs for years without NPIP and has never had a problem, I decided to research this. I first called 800-ask-usps...who then referred me to call my "local mailing requirements"...who then spoke with "transportation." This is what I was finally was able to come up with. Someone please correct me if they know of (or have heard) something different.

I was sent to this weblink: http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm300/601.htm#1064884 and advised to click on the 9.0 which is perishables - then told to scroll down to 9.3.2 Day-Old Poultry (pasted below) which explains the requirements to ship baby chicks.

(To summarize what I THINK I have learned - as long as the baby chicks haven't been vaccinated with New Castles, they are packaged in proper and secured mailing boxes, mailed within 24 hours of hatching and due to arrive at their destination by the time they are 72 hours old - I'm not seeing where NPIP is a requirement...nor do they need any kind of health paper. There are specific things stated below that need to be followed, but I don't see anything about NPIP.)     

9.3.2 Day-Old Poultry

Day-old poultry vaccinated with Newcastle disease (live virus) is nonmailable. Live day-old chickens, ducks, emus, geese, guinea fowl, partridges, pheasants (pheasants may be mailed only from April through August), quail, and turkeys are acceptable in the mail only if:

a. They are not more than 24 hours old and are presented for mailing in the original unopened hatchery box from the hatchery of origin.

b. The date and hour of hatching is noted on the box by a representative of the hatchery who has personal knowledge thereof. (For COD shipments made by a hatchery for the account of others, the name or initials and address of the hatchery or the Post Office box number and address of the hatchery must be prominently shown for this standard.)

c. The box is properly ventilated, of proper construction and strength to bear safe transmission in the mail, and not stacked more than 10 units high.

d. They are mailed early enough in the week to avoid receipt at the office of address, in case of missed connections, on a Sunday, on a national holiday, or on the afternoon before a Sunday or holiday.

e. They can be delivered to the addressee within 72 hours of the time of hatching, whether the addressee resides in town or on a rural route or highway contract route.

f. The shipment bears special handling postage in addition to regular postage, unless sent at the First-Class Mail or Priority Mail prices.

g. When live, day-old poultry is to be transported by aircraft, all provisions of the airline tariffs are met and air carriers have equipment available to safely deliver shipments within the specified time limits, allowing for delays en route in air and ground transportation.

h. Day-old poultry, originally shipped by air express or air cargo and then presented for mailing, must be in good condition and prepared as specified in 9.3.2a. through 9.3.2e.

i. Boxes of day-old poultry of about identical size, securely fastened together to prevent separation in transit, may be accepted for mailing as a single parcel, if such parcel is not more than 100 inches in length and girth combined.

John:
Sharon,

Go back and check out the topic from awhile ago...
http://ameraucana.org/forum/index.php?topic=1783.msg12282#msg12282
I try to avoid politics and religion on this forum, unless it pertains to our chickens or club.  With some subjects like this I generally feel the less said...the better.  Big Brother is watching. ;)
More and more the federal government is choosing to turn their heads when laws they don't like are broken.  With more and more executive orders they are making rules (thier own laws) as they please.
If that is good enough for the federal government, I think it should be good enough for me.  IMO, just ignore any rules, regulations or laws that you don't agree with.

Jean:
Sharon,

The USPS does not as a habit regulate individual State Laws.  They have regulations on shipping live birds, but that is it.

If the State finds out that you have shipped birds in illegally they can prosecute you and/or the receiver....never heard of it done though.

Sharon Yorks:
I am just trying to find out "where" it says you have to be NPIP to ship chicks. Where do I find that written law/rule? I'll check out John's link to see if it's in there somewhere.

I know the NPIP people say you have to and set up their own rules, but where is the law written elsewhere that you have to be NPIP?

Sharon Yorks:
Okay, poop! I found this in John's link that reads:

State regulations for import of poultry and hatching eggs.
(All information subject to change. Contact each state department of Agriculture for up-to-date information)
 
So I'm assuming that it's written in each state's Department of Agriculture's laws or rule book. Again, poop! Back to the question I find myself asking, "To be or not to be..." At least I still have a few weeks to figure it out. Or I guess nothing is saying I can't wait until next year and just renew if I want to. That's probably what I will do. See what happens after the upcoming election. You never know what may soon happen  :-\

Ohio

901:1-15-02
(A) Chickens. No person shall buy, sell, transport within or import into Ohio chickens, except for
immediate slaughter, or chicken hatching eggs, unless the flock or hatchery of origin is a
participant in the National Poultry Improvement Plans for the eradication of disease or is
following a program officially approved by the Ohio Department of Agriculture.

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