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Frontline for mites and/or lice
dixieland:
I looked through my binders from when I was the director at the Pharmacovigilence Call Center for Merck/ Merial:
Frontline DOES NOT have an expiration date. It is alleged to stay stable and safe as long as it is kept out of direct sunlight. Hence the colored vials and opaque bottles it is sold in. When a product is EPA mandated, like frontline is, an expiration date is not mandatory. I have put in a call to one of my old colleagues regarding withdrawl times for meat and eggs in poultry treated with frontline. I know that the withdrawl time is 21 days for poultry treated with any member of the ivermectin family.
I alternate my flocks between Frontline Spray and Ivomec Pour-On. Both products have had a well earned place in my animal husbandry toolbox for many years. I have been way overexposed to both products on multiple occasions including accidetal inhalation and ingestion. I do not glow in the dark, nor have I grown any extra fingers or toes. I am accused of being harsh and blunt by my family and co- workers, but I blame that on my overexposure to NYC during my formative years, lol!!!
Ok, back to the point: There is not one product that is going to provide the same results for all of us.....We are all raising our flocks in unique environments. The climate varies greatly from my place in Middle TN to the Smith's place outside of DFW to Royce in CA to Jean & Christina in WA state and so on and so on. It's important to keep n
otes on how well a product works for you and to share those results with fellow breeders....
Tailfeathers:
Jes, your post cracked me up! You sure you don't glow in the dark? And having talked to a few folks in NYC from time to time, your excuse there is likely warranted! One or two days of calling into there and I'm like, "What is it with these people? I'm going to go work SC or something."
One slight correction to your post... I'm in WA with Jean and Christina. And, if I remember right, none of the Ivermec products are authorized for poultry so since it's off-label use, it's usually pretty hard to get anyone to tell you anything about using it on poultry. I've tried calling and never got anywhere. I used to the Ivermec Eprinex and since it said there was no withdrawal period for milk or meat, I figured it was safe for eating eggs and chickens too, especially since it was likely a lot smaller dose.
Thus far I'm not glowing in the dark either.
God Bless,
Royce
dixieland:
Sorry Royce,
I thought you were hangin' ten near the Ocean in CA for some reason, lol!!!! Again they are both off label uses-- but I did work with the company for several years, so I am generally able to get off label data; like the withdrawl time for Ivomec in Poultry or vaccines sent directly to my vet....That job had and probably still has the best perks of any job I have had...
Have a great Lord's Day!
Tailfeathers:
Jess, I forgot I read that. We are very blessed to have your years of experience with Merck here with us. I'm quite sure now that you've let that cat out of the bag, I and probably some others will be bending your ear in the future.
And here I was thinking you're just an ol' Hillbilly Chicken Rancher! ;)
God Bless,
dixieland:
YyAt the end of the day, that's all I am.....Add Christian to the adjectives and you've covered the most I'm :-\
portant details.... ::)
But like any other Hillbilly Christian Chicken Rancher, I ha ve a past.....12 years worth running Pharmaco for Merial/ Merck and then Pfizer.....And I would not trade one minute of my past for my present/ future!!! Everything has worked out beyond super for me...That includes meeting and learning from all of you!!!!
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