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Don:
The buffs that I've seen thus far, the females are a lighter dull color and the males a lustrous golden orangish color.  They are Very different male to female.  But there may be lines available that produce different results like Mike said.  If the buff is related to wheaten, then should it be a surprise that the male and female come in different colors/shades?

Some of the black colored birds with yellow legs (not AMs) are a simple example of a double mating application.  The females seem to carry more melanizers and it's not often you get good colored birds from one mating.  You can choose to breed a female or male line or double mate to have show birds of both sexes, but you have to carry twice as many birds in your breeding pens.

Ex.   Lighter Black males with white undercover and clean yellow legs will help produce good black body color with yellow legged females.  But the males produced from this mating are going to be too light in undercolor and possibly white feathers and will not be show birds.

Dark legged females with "right colored" males produce good dark colored males but most often the resulting females will have black legs, very little yellow maybe only on the bottom of the foot pads.

Some breeders will say that the standard needs to be modified to allow single mating.  Some might say that over time you can attain the perfect color in both - nirvana.

John:

--- Quote ---Some breeders will say that the standard needs to be modified to allow single mating.
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Exactly where I'm at.  The Standard describes each variety, yet double mating produces two different varieties to fit the bill.
I hear a lot these days about not sacrificing the egg laying and meat properties of a breed while still breeding toward the Standard.  I would opt for the practical bird properties over the show winner characteristics as a primary breeding goal and double breeding for show just doesn't seem practical or natural in my view.
If a multicolored variety doesn't work out then I have no problem with dropping it from the Standard.  I can live with one variety of Ameraucana if it got down to only one that has the correct dual purpose properties and fits the Standard.  LF blacks are there! 
I'm not into the SPPA or ALBC.  If a breed or variety doesn't make the cut, so be it.  There will still be chickens 100 years from now to provide people with eggs and meat.

Mike Gilbert:

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--- Quote from: Holiday Hatch on December 30, 2013, 05:55:33 PM ---Hello fellow club members.  Recently there were a few posts about double mating.  Could someone please tell me what is meant by the term Double Mating?  Thank you - Linda

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Here is an exerpt from an article in Fancy Fowl magazine (July 2009) by Grant Brereton that explains a little about double mating. Thanks John for making it uploadable...

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Grant will be in North Carolina on March 14th to give a poultry genetics seminar.  Tuition is $99 if pre-registered or $129 at the door - if seats are available.   The article gives a good example of double mating, but don't read too much into it, as the partridge color we breed here in the U.S. is different than the partridge bred in the U.K.     Every partridge Wyandotte bantam breeder I have talked to say they get exhibition males and females from single mating.  I breed Partridge Chantecler bantams, so can confirm they are correct.   

Holiday Hatch:
Thank you all for the replies and detailed discussion.  It makes sense now and I would never have figured it out without some explanation.  Linda

Max:

--- Quote ---Grant will be in North Carolina on March 14th to give a poultry genetics seminar.
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Mike, the last time I emailed Jerry Foley he said that Grant was also trying to have this seminar in Lucasville next October... Have you heard anything about it?


--- Quote ---double breeding for show just doesn't seem practical or natural in my view.
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I agree with you John. I really like the Blue Wheaten variety but the more I have thought about double mating them the less interested I've become in doing it. It sounds like a lot more work than I am ready for.

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