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Proposed changes to club DUES

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Sharon Yorks:
The split between board members (3 to 3) came because of the issue of the mailing of the quarterly bulletins to Lifetime Members. I personally know of a lifetime member who has been saving “every” bulletin since he became a member and I did not feel that it was fair to him or anyone else who would put that much commitment and interest into this club, to be told they “have” to switch to e-mail. This is the way I worded my actual vote:

“If you are saying that if someone who is willing to pay for a lifetime membership does not even have the option of getting their bulletin by US mail..then I vote "no" to the new proposal.”

Jean and I both started calling members who were receiving their bulletins by snail mail and many didn’t mind switching to help save the club money, so the whole idea of trying to push an issue through which decreased the club’s income, but was presented as of a way to saving time and money, did not make sense to me. In reality, I believe it was more of an issue of trying to get more people to switch to e-mail, which many agreed to do without having to push a new set of rules….which I guess now leads me to another question.

John…You said,“If in office next year I'll try again...with some new board members in place that could change the outcome of a vote(s).” and then you also said, “I'll make another proposal(s) once the new board is in place.”

My question is, if you are elected President and then also stay on as Secretary/Treasurer, does that give you 2 votes when voting on any issues presented to the Board of Directors?

Sharon Yorks:
Your proposal says: 

Lifetime Membership Dues, with Bulletins emailed (no option here for US mail), are $200/Individual & $300/Family.

This does not state anything about old lifetime members being grandfathered in or only email options for new lifetime members. Your proposal was for a "change" in membership issues. But even with that said, no one should be forced to only use email. We have members who don't even own a computer.

The thing I don't understand is why you are SO insistent on getting this proposal pushed through when it's not like we are going to have a stampede of people wanting to buy lifetime memberships. It's not that hard to print an extra bulletin should there ever be a situation where a new lifetime member wants a printed bulletin.

And just to clarify...are you saying that if "you" hold both positions in office you are only going to have 1 vote or 2?

Mike Gilbert:
Conversations like this are best done by private email.    Get the details worked out in private, then have the vote and report the results.    Paper bulletins require a lot of time, and is probably one of the main reasons so few ever step up to run for the office of secretary.   I am one of those who switched to email, but my printer does a lousy job with color, so John offered to send paper once again.   I have saved all the newsletters since 1978 when the club was first formed.   I hope to donate these back to the club or to some worthy individual when I get to the point when I can no longer keep birds, which may not be too far distant in the future.    If nobody is interested when the time comes, I guess my grandkids can have a nice bonfire and marshmallow roast. 

Sharon Yorks:

--- Quote from: Sharon Yorks on August 23, 2014, 11:30:33 AM ---
And just to clarify...are you saying that if "you" hold both positions in office you are only going to have 1 vote or 2?

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I do not mean to be a stickler about this, but I would still like a "clear" answer as to whether or not you (John)  would have 1 vote or 2 if you held both positions in office next year. I personally do not feel any one person should have 2 votes. When trying to make decisions that affect the entire membership, it is healthy to have as many view points as possible, especially with the limited number of people and votes on the board right now. I know your previous answer was:

"No, but I would imagine if the same person was elected to more than one office they would get a vote for each."

I'm just not exactly sure what that means. Sorry.

Schroeder:
I'm glad I was reelected by default before you made the cruise public information.  I might have had some competition otherwise.  8)
Duane

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