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Suz:
Here\'s a picture of one of my self-blue Belgian d\'Anvers.  It looks like some brassiness in the hackle, wing bows, and saddle feathers.  Can lavenders get genetic brassiness like whites or is it most likely from sun exposure?  The brassiness is only on the top layer of feathers.



I am planning on cross-breeding these to black and wheaten Ameraucanas to make lavender and lavender wheatens.

Mike Gilbert:
Actually, I have never seen an aged cock in lavender that wasn\'t brassy.   I think it\'s possible to get a good clean line, but it could be a lot of trial and error.   Anyone else reading this that has bred lavender for a number of years - please correct me if I\'m off base.   Anyway, the brassiness issue is one reason why the color never interested me very much.    I think a properly laced blue is much more attractive, and that is a breeding project that I\'m working on in bantams - it appears so far there was some pretty good progress this year.   This is not to discourage anyone from working on lavender, just to explain why I have not joined in.

John:
The photo looks just like the two I sold yesterday.  They were out in pens with full sun.  I had bought them earlier this year for the same lavender breeding project.  I know of four of us working on the project.  We need 5 for 5 years to get the variety recognized.  Anyone interested?
The brassiness reminds me of the same problem with whites getting yellowish in the same areas.
I had a LF blue male that looked washed out, with some orange ness, when he turned two.  How much was from the genes and how much was caused by the sun, I don\'t know.
I think there is a poor feather quality gene related to the lavender gene, but I like the color and the fact that it breeds true whereas blue doesn\'t.  

Suz:
Hi John,

RE: \"We need 5 for 5 years to get the variety recognized.\"
Are there any records that I need to be keeping?

Susie

faith valley:
I too am interested in the answer to this question.  We are currently working on the pied variety of call ducks;  we have only 4 people here in the states working on it right now.  Does the ABA have an outline somewhere on what kind of documentation that they require?

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