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Mike Gilbert:
Jean, do you know for sure they are recessive wheaten?   If they are, when they are crossed to a \"wild type\" (small e at the e-locus), the offspring will appear as wild types - the typical BBRed or Silver pattern.   If dominant wheaten, the females  will probably appear to be a mixture of wheaten and wild type.
You can use either with buff.   Buff involves a lot of recessive genes, so you will not get a good buff in the first generation outcross anyway.   It will take several years to get the real good color back.   If you get lucky, there might be some decent ones in the F-2 generation, assuming you raise enough of them.

Jean:
Mike, I was trying to ask what a recessive wheaten looks like.  I have wheaten and blue wheaten stock and have not breed them, so, I do not have recessive birds....

Jean

Guest:
Recessive wheaten- Males black brested red with  gray  down under color. Females have more black stippeling in the breast and back than dominate wheaten.

Dominate wheaten- Males are black breasted red with cream or white down under color.

Chick down- recessive wheaten will commonly have head spots and faint back stripes on a cream.

dominate wheaten down may have head spots on a cream down color.

Tim

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Mike Gilbert:
I believe, based on what I have had here the past 30 years, that dominant wheaten and recessive wheaten can appear just about the same, depending on the modifiers present.
B.B.Red, as in Cubalaya, is also a form of wheaten.   Salmon, as in Salmon Faverolles, is based on silver wheaten.   And so it goes.

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