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Susan Mouw

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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2017, 07:55:56 AM »
Under a previous Administration, the Meet Report form was changed, arbitrarily by one Board member, to show that CH and Res CH Ameraucana were only to be selected at National and District meets.  With the changeover in the Board in 2015, the Board members decided to remove that restriction and permit CH and Res CH Ameraucana at any show.  That has not changed.

If I get a Meet Report where CH and Res CH Ameraucana has been selected - by the judge - then those points are awarded and the award is noted on the meet report, regardless of what type meet it is.
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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2017, 08:10:01 AM »
I went back through some of the meet reports that have been posted over the past year and found some that were not National, or District Meets, but birds were awarded the CH or Res CH Ameraucana.  In all of these, the winner was accorded the points for their win.

All Meet Reports are posted, when completed (and I'm running behind on those right now), on the website at: http://www.ameraucanabreedersclub.org/meet report.html

Comanche Crossroads, 2/2/17
http://www.ameraucanabreedersclub.org/meet_reports/2-12-17%20Comanche%20Crossroads%20Comanche%20TX.pdf

Pelican Classic, 11/19/16
http://www.ameraucanabreedersclub.org/meet_reports/11-19-16%20Pelican%20Classic%20Haynesville%20LA.pdf

Ohio National, 11/13/16
http://www.ameraucanabreedersclub.org/meet_reports/11-12-16%20Ohio%20National%20Columbus%20OH.pdf

Gulf South Fall Classic, 11/12/16
http://www.ameraucanabreedersclub.org/meet_reports/11-12-16%20Gulf%20South%20Fall%20Classic%20Baton%20Rouge%20LA.pdf
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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2017, 10:23:27 AM »
Thanks, Susan for clarifying that. That is the way that I read our Point System policy. I will admit that I thought it was a little strange at first because I had never seen an Ameraucana Bantam. The first time that I had ever seen an Ameraucana Bantam was in December of 2014 in Shawnee, Oklahoma. Now that Bantam Ameraucanas are starting to grow in popularity, we see others at most of the shows in this area. In some of the shows around here, Bantams have outnumbered the Large Fowl.

And thanks again Susan and Temple for keeping up with all of this mess for our Club. I know that both of you must have other things that you could be doing with your time.

Be Blessed,
Ernie



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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2017, 03:52:33 PM »
First I have to extend a heartfelt THANK YOU

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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2017, 04:43:30 PM »
Okay....I was trying to say THANK YOU to Susan and Temple for great work on a difficult job of recording show reports and compiling points.

Susan clarified the issue of CH and RCH in her post at the top of page 2.  Having said that I would like to stress that the word "intent" (since it has been mentioned several times in this discussion) causes more disturbance than any other little word I know.  It is subjective and open to interpretation from anyone.  I have already been through this issue (show points) as a board member with a much bigger association than ABC.  "Intent" does not cut it. A rule must be specific to its interpretation....easily and clearly understood by anyone that reads it.  I can't count the number of times I heard "Oh, but that was not the intention..." Intention does not matter. You can only enforce what you have "specifically" spelled out. I think the ABC "points" section of the site is very user friendly and understandable.

I, personally, do not see a problem with a CH and RCH at any meet as long as both large fowl and bantams are shown.  I would not have a problem if there were a specified number of each that had to be shown to trigger the CH and RCH. I also have not found a judge(s) to have a problem when asked to pick a CH and RCH. If there were separate judges for large fowl and bantams it was very informative to listen to their comments and evaluations as they reached their conclusion as to which would be #1.

Just my thoughts for what they are worth...

Peggy

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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2017, 08:58:24 PM »
Susan, I do not see the AZ State Fair show report. Is it not turned in?

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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2017, 09:00:25 PM »
I'm working my way through the stack...give me time. :)
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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2017, 09:07:21 PM »
Susan,

I don't even want to think about that stack. I see my stacks that are laying around here and feel sorry for you. I am still digging through stacks of Entry Forms that are going to be due in the next few weeks. Just remember to breath once in a while.

I talked to some people from Wisconsin that were at the show in Shawnee. They said that due to the weather, their show season was just about over. I told them that ours had just began. They worry about the snow and freezing temperatures. We worry about the high temperatures on our birds when we are hauling. Everybody has their cross to carry.

Be Blessed,
Ernie

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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2017, 06:19:53 PM »
Susan, I do not see the AZ State Fair show report. Is it not turned in?

Kelly, I do not see anything from the Arizona State Fair.  I'll contact them this week to see what we need to do.
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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2017, 06:28:41 PM »
It is bad when a show agrees to host a Special Meet and then doesn't follow up on their paperwork. Not only is it bad for the exhibitor, but it makes more work for Susan and Temple. We keep extra Show Reports in our show box. We make sure that the Show Officials are going to mail them in to the ABC or we get them to sign the paperwork and we send it in ourselves. We have always gotten our points from the ABC, but the APA can be a whole different story. Our points have not been updated in two years with the APA. Maybe this problem can be easily resolved. I know that if you exhibited and got points, you want to get them.

Be Blessed,
Ernie Haire

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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2017, 07:46:02 PM »
I have faith that this will be resolved. Not many points, but they are my first ones! I appreciate all the hard work that goes into this. Thanks Ernie, for the suggestion! I will get show reports and bring them along!

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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2018, 10:09:19 PM »
Anything yet? Should I call Them?

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Re: Exhibitor Points --> Arizona State Fair Meet 2017
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2018, 08:28:46 PM »
Anything yet? Should I call Them?

Hi Kelly,

I'm sorry I missed this from you earlier.  Nope, according to my Meet Reports Tracker, we have never gotten anything from the show secretary, Russell Page.  I don't have an email or phone number and see that they have a different contact on Poultry Show Central.  I would really appreciate it if you could chase this report up as it was due 30 days past the show date which I have as October 18, 2017.

Thanks,
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Re: Exhibitor Points
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2018, 11:32:37 PM »
I will call him tomorrow. Get back to you when I talk with him!