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Christy Rodriguez:
Hi everyone! I need some help from those of you that are producing your own Isabel color. I have a self blue rooster over wheaten ladies. I know all are true and pure because I bred and hatched from self blues together and wheaten to each other. There should not be any hidden genetics. I hatched my first round of self blue over wheaten and have gotten chicks that almost look black and others that look wheaten. I expected this first generation to be all wheaten looking, wheaten split to self blue. Am I missing something?

Lindsay Helton:
Pure is a relative term. ;)

In a self blue x wheaten cross, the first generation chicks that you will want to keep will appear black at hatch. Keep those chicks to make progress moving forward.

For more info on what kind of phenotype and genotype to expect as you work on the project color, you may find the following article to be helpful:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/lav-shack.49228/

Christy Rodriguez:
Ok so the black chicks I will breed back to the self blue to see more isabel? The chicks that hatched that look like a red/brown (dark cream with a black chipmunk pattern) are not worth keeping? Those will not breed back with self blue for the isabel?

Christy Rodriguez:
Wow! Thank you for the link. Omg, I thought I had a pretty good grasp on genetics and color and that looked like a tangled web of generics that I am not prepared for. I initially was planning on keeping and raising any females that I hatch this year. But now I feel like I really have no clue what my goal this year should be.

Lindsay Helton:
Christy,

You can breed the chicks that appear black at hatch together at maturity and will have a 6% chance of creating the isabel color variety. Just keep hatching. :)

Yes, get rid of the chicks that you referred to as being cream with a black chipmunk pattern.

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