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Suz:
Grisaboy,

My black cockerel will be so happy!  Yes, I know that the lavender color is prone to brassiness and I\'ve been sitting here wondering how I could get the silver gene into my lavender project so that the males, especially, would not be brassy as they matured.  If it was a snake, it would have bit me, huh.  Thanks for the very good news.

Now would he (the black cockerel with some silver in his hackles and saddles) be good to cross with white females to pass the silver gene onto my whites?

Suz:
Grisaboy,

Thank you VERY much for the genetic info. on the wheaten X lavender chicks.  So when I breed these crossed chicks to each other, would you expect the lavender wheaten color to be expressed?

If I get some color variation in these F1s, I may ask your advice as to which ones to use for breeding next season.

grisaboy:
Suz,
RE: Wheaton X Lavendar cross
I am not a Genetics experts.  Most of my comments are based partly on experience and partly on my own somewhat simplistic genetic knowledge.
When you cross the F1 birds from the Wheaton X Lavendar cross Theoretically if you hatch 16 chicks you would get the following;
1 lavendar wheaton
1 lavendar
2 lavendar brown red
3 black
3 wheaton
6 brown red
The brown red birds are not true brown reds but wheaton/black crosses.  
These colors are based only on the E locus genes and lavendar/non lavendar genes.  There are bound to be other genes present that will also affect the colors, so it is unlikely that your blacks and lavendar birds will be pure for color.
Also, the percentages are theoretical and never work out that way in reality.  The more birds you hatch, the closer you will get to the theoretical percentages.
When selecting the F1 birds for your mating, choose birds that are closest to Ameraucana type.  Especially try to get away from the upright carriage and high tail that comes from the d\'anvers.

Suz:
Here\'s a picture of my first two F1 birds (wheaten Ameraucana x self-blue d\'Anver).  They\'re 5 months old now.



Susie

Mike Gilbert:

Wow!    The male is a dead ringer for brown red from the side view, crow winged and all.    Apparently the lavender parent carried at least one copy of sex linked gold (small s).    And the female is somewhat similar to black gold females.   Very interesting.   Now I\'m going to have to test cross the black gold with wheaten to make sure the black golds  are not just wheaten/birchen hetero\'s at the e-locus.  If they are we have wasted a lot of time and effort.

Mike G.

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