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Blue Egg Acres:

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4.   . . . I don\'t see too much support from APA corners to craft yet another custom Silver pattern, and hopefully the Dutch Silver pattern is close enough for the purposes.



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Do I understand correctly that even if we should want a silver description that allowed for \"full\" striping, we more than likely wouldn\'t be able to get it into the APA Standard? Would that opportunity exist at a future date?

John, I think that most of my cockerels have the striping from the head down as you describe, but I\'m pretty sure I have a few that come very close to the description of striping on the lower hackles/saddle only(I wish I could see them!) I\'ve been out with my camera again and here is a pic of one of them. What do you think? I\'m going to do a final cull soon and will pay close attention to the striping as I handle each one.

I will be bringing ALOT of extra silvers to the show that will be for sale.

Guest:
What stripe?

My note about preference to not craft yet another Silver pattern variant ties to the fact that we are seeking to pinpoint an ideal description, and the convention over time has been to organize by similar styles of patterns.  The APA Silver Leghorn style has lower hackle striping and no saddle striping.  The Silver Dutch calls for lower hackle striping and saddle striping.  The ABA Silver pattern is essentially the same as the APA Silver Dutch - stripes in lower hackle and stripes in saddle.  The full hackle striping situation is more normally associated with the crow wing varities like Birchen and Brown Red.  Every kind of duckwing variety, whether it be the Game style of Black Breasted Red and Silver Duckwing with fully clear saddle and hackle, or the Light Brown Leghorn and Silver Leghorn style, where striping is ideally zoned in the lower hackle, does not use a full hackle stripe.  It would seem prudent to follow the tradition and either have the partial hackle stripe or perhaps none as in Silver Duckwing...but I don\'t think going to Silver Duckwing is what the group wants.  The photos of most of the males seem to show quite a bit of muddiness and variability, not only in the crispness of hackle striping, but across the back and into the saddle.  It seems like it would be best to view those as deviating from an ideal Standard of striping in the lower hackle.  In reality, however, hackle (neck) color is worth a whopping 5 points, and I\'m not sure how one could justify cutting a Silver male much if the stripes extend beyond the lower hackle as the Silver Dutch example might require.

Sam Brush

Guest:
Female Silver color?  Other than a few comments about shafting being a problem in females, there has been a focus on male color.  There is a need to review the female color description for Silver Dutch to see how it might compare to the Ameraucanas.

Sam

Mike Gilbert:
The Silver Dutch Standard would probably fit the Ameraucana Silver variety better than the Leghorn description.   The Dutch A.P.A. standard does call for some saddle striping in the males, and it allows for a greater latitude in the actual shade of grey in the females.   Plus it says that more attention is to be given to lack of shafting in the females than the actual shade of color.    I think I like it.   What do the rest of you think?

Mike Gilbert

bantamhill:
My thoughts have been centering on the Silver Dutch and I think I am leaning that way after considering the comments of all.

Michael

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