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Title: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 04:41:50 PM
Ok, I've been working on a more interactive online Breeder's Directory and have uploaded the latest work-in-progress.

Please check your entries. I will also be going through each and every entry to make sure there were no errors in transmission. But, every entry had to be re-typed and that leaves a lot of opportunities for error.

Check it out!  Let me know how you like it.  The next step will be to convert the printed version to a more spreadsheet type style.

Oh..just fyi - the default sort order is alphabetical by last name. If you need to return to the default, just refresh the page.

Edited to add - I just went to re-check some things and found the format was hosed due to a font error. It fixed itself after I refreshed again, but if you get to the page and the table columns don't look like they are lining up - just refresh. I'll keep researching the problem.

Update 2/16/15 11:35AM (EST): The interactive breeder's directory is now working in Internet Explorer. Please remember to refresh your browser so the latest version of both the .html and the .css files are loaded. The sort function will not work if you do not have javascripts enabled. - Susan
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 15, 2015, 05:45:23 PM
A typo in the Notice to Buys heading...ABD should be ABC.
I think District and Country could be omitted and would save space.  State/Province is all that in needed there.
On mine, please omit the phone and email icons.  Website is all that I would like listed for contact.
It would be nice if can shorten the pages of the listings.  There is a lot of blank space to scroll thru.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
It would be nice if can shorten the pages of the listings.  There is a lot of blank space to scroll thru.

Are you referring to the printed PDF, John? That format will be going away.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 15, 2015, 06:57:18 PM
No...the new stuff (the PDF doesn't have icons and such).
Here is my listing on the old Word/PDF list:

John W Blehm (2015) 1, 9, 11, LF lavender B
Birch Run MI 10, 12, bantam lavender
Fowl Stuff h t t p : / / F o w l S t u ff . c om

The new listing has my address and omits my business name, Fowl Stuff.  There are several members that don't want their addresses listed, so please be sure to transcribe the listings without adding or deleting info.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 07:21:11 PM
As I said, I will be going through each listing to correct errors, but someone will catch an error on their listing at a glance, where I have to do a visual comparison.

Because of the number of invalid entries in the old word version, I took all membership info from the membership spreadsheet, in the absence of all membership forms except for those that have sent new forms in this year and a few early renewals from December 2014. Bird varieties and shopping preferences were taken from the old breeders directory.


But I am still confused as to where the excessive white space is.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Mike Gilbert on February 15, 2015, 07:29:50 PM
Susan, the space between the listings is very excessive, and makes it very hard to use.   I fail to see how this format is any more user friendly than the old version- in fact it is more difficult to use unless you are looking for a specific name.   Most people are looking for a specific variety, and that was a strength of the old system.   I would strongly urge you to go back to it.   Why fix something that does not need fixing?
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 15, 2015, 07:31:39 PM
Don't know about white space, but this is the blank space I see...
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 07:36:04 PM
OK, this is not what it should look like. I think this might be related to the same problem I had earlier. Please refresh your browsers. It looks like the new stylesheet isn't getting loaded at first.

The old format is still there, Mike.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 15, 2015, 07:41:23 PM
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Because of the number of invalid entries in the old word version, I took all membership info from the membership spreadsheet, in the absence of all membership forms except for those that have sent new forms in this year and a few early renewals from December 2014. Bird varieties and shopping preferences were taken from the old breeders directory.

I know of the one invalid entry that you pointed out the other day.  The rest was up to date as of 12/31/14 and just needed to have the listings deleted of the memberships that lapsed.
Those listings with "(2015)" were up to date with 2015 memberships that were received. 
I believe there should be a policy were listings over say 3 years old will be deleted unless updated to make sure the info is current.  I was going to get around to something like that and that is why I started including the year that each listing was added/updated.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 15, 2015, 07:42:41 PM
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refresh your browsers
Doesn't help.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Mike Gilbert on February 15, 2015, 07:43:06 PM
OK, this is not what it should look like. I think this might be related to the same problem I had earlier. Please refresh your browsers. It looks like the new stylesheet isn't getting loaded at first.

The old format is still there, Mike.

Where?   If it is still there, why does the new format come up when I click on the link?   And who decided a change should be made?
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 15, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
The blue link to the PDF file is in the center of the page.  I would suggest one remains even after the new online list is debugged.  The PDF will still be easy to print and use for many.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Mike Gilbert on February 15, 2015, 07:59:20 PM
Yeah, but will a newbie know that and be able to find it?   Why not make the old one the default from the link, and the new one the other option?  I'm just not seeing any major advantage for a lot of time and effort spent.   Can somebody explain it to me?
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 08:04:47 PM
This is what the online breeder's directory should look like:

(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/breeders-directory-table.jpg)

If it doesn't look similar to this, then please let me know. A screen print, such as what John has posted, will be helpful in determining the problem. I still believe it is because the stylesheet isn't loading, but I'll be testing that to see.

You would still see the new page (an html file), whether the updated stylesheet loaded or not. The stylesheet is a separate file (a .css file) that dictates the format for a website (fonts, colors, formats, etc.)

I will get this figured out and get it fixed. It is my opinion that a sortable and searchable table type format is much easier to use than a printed .pdf. Just last week I was looking for LF Whites and had a heck of a time trying to sort through the entries.

Some may not like this interactive format and prefer the printed format - that's fine. The pdf won't be going away, but it may be in a better format.

Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 08:11:31 PM
Yeah, but will a newbie know that and be able to find it?   Why not make the old one the default from the link, and the new one the other option?  I'm just not seeing any major advantage for a lot of time and effort spent.   Can somebody explain it to me?

Mike, the old breeder's directory is in the exact same place that it was before I added the online interactive table. That has not changed. Everyone will still have a choice to use one or the other.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Jean on February 15, 2015, 08:19:00 PM
Mike, 

Susan pretty much has creative reign over the website. 

There are no policies that cover the website, therefore the acting secretary has an opportunity to be as creative as they desire as long as ABC policy is not changed.

This does not mean suggestions from the membership are not taken into consideration.

Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 08:19:20 PM
John I just uploaded a new version with a renamed .css file, so it has to look for a new one. Please try a refresh again and let me know.  thank you
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 15, 2015, 08:55:07 PM
Still appears the same here.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 09:00:27 PM
John, what browser are you using and what version, please? Knowing that will help me figure out what you're seeing all the "white space"
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 15, 2015, 09:07:51 PM
IE 11
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 15, 2015, 09:29:40 PM
OK. It works in chrome and safari, but there seems to be an issue with internet explorer... At least version 11.

I'll keep researching a fix, so people with have an option of either the online interactive version or the printed one.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 16, 2015, 11:42:37 AM
Update on the interactive breeder's directory.

Some of you may have experienced some display issues if you are on Internet Explorer, v11. Those issues have now been corrected and the interactive breeder's directory should be working cross-browsers.

Just fyi - the sort function is a javascript function, so will not work if you have javascripts disabled (which is the default with Internet Explorer)

If you continue to have issues with the proper display or functionality of the interactive breeder's directory, please let me know by email to samouw@gmail.com. Be sure to include what browser you are on and the version of that browser.

For those that prefer the printed format, the .pdf will continue to be available. I have modifed the print button, so it is easier to find.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: John on February 16, 2015, 12:01:54 PM
Much better.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Mike Gilbert on February 16, 2015, 02:47:42 PM
I can't see the last line of the last listing (Sharon's) and can't really tell if anyone is supposed to be listed after her or not, as the border obscures her last line.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Schroeder on February 16, 2015, 03:39:39 PM
Nice work Susan.  I like it!
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 18, 2015, 11:28:53 AM
I'm having display issues also.  Header and first lines seem to be superimposed over Exhibitor points, screen doesn't seem to quite fit, a bit wide, on my screen.  When I hover over the headers, I do not get an arrow or anything like that to show it's clickable, but I can get it to sort anyway.  Perhaps the worse problem is the phone numbers will not display.  I'm using IE 9.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Jean on February 18, 2015, 11:49:12 AM
Sharon,

Have you tried to update your IE browser?  Its pretty important to do so, older versions can have bugs and security issues.  You can go here to make sure you are running the most current browser for your windows program.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/download-ie

Hope it helps.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 18, 2015, 09:50:17 PM
Sharon,

Have you tried to update your IE browser?  Its pretty important to do so, older versions can have bugs and security issues.  You can go here to make sure you are running the most current browser for your windows program.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/download-ie

Hope it helps.

Well, I figured that would be the what was suggested, but I really have problems when I try updating like that, never works, so I just leave it with what it was installed with. 
Besides, is that what we are going to tell everyone who wants to access the breeders directory?  Update your browser?
Most folk don't do that kind of stuff.  Keep things simple so everyone can access the info.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Mike Gilbert on February 18, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
Sharon, if you can find the icon there is still the old PDF format for the Breeders Directory.   Nothing much is simple here any more. 
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 19, 2015, 12:53:30 PM
Well, I figured that would be the what was suggested, but I really have problems when I try updating like that, never works, so I just leave it with what it was installed with. 
Besides, is that what we are going to tell everyone who wants to access the breeders directory?  Update your browser?
Most folk don't do that kind of stuff.  Keep things simple so everyone can access the info.

Hi Sharon

I understand about updating your browser. Jean's answer was correct, though, if you want to use the new online interactive directory. But I get antsy every time I have to update something on my computer, so I can understand your reluctance.

The good news is that the online interactive is just additional functionality - it doesn't, nor was it intended to, replace the .pdf file. That is still there. I did make the Print .pdf button larger and, hopefully, more visible.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 19, 2015, 05:09:32 PM
Yes, that would be my concern.  That some may not see it and we would be missing out on contacts.

It has nothing to do with my being antsy.  Maybe technologically inept, idk, but not antsy.  Updates are a pain in the rear for me for some reason.  They never finish or install properly.  I always end up having to cancel out of updates because they tend to stall.  I'm thinking it may be me being at the end of the line.  I'm sure there are many just like me, not too tech savy to solve computer issues.  Thus my keep it simple concept to include everyone.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Lussos on February 21, 2015, 03:33:03 PM
Hi Folks

FWIW, I would like a straight HTML page, no JavaScript, no CSS, no extra loading,  of all the breeders in straight alphabetical order, that I can just do a CTL F (Win-Linux) on and find what I want.  Thanks
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 21, 2015, 04:54:57 PM
Hi Folks

FWIW, I would like a straight HTML page, no JavaScript, no CSS, no extra loading,  of all the breeders in straight alphabetical order, that I can just do a CTL F (Win-Linux) on and find what I want.  Thanks

Hi Sue

I can understand not wanting a page with JavaScript. There are lots of folks that prefer not to have JS files loaded. The js that runs the sort feature on the interactive breeder's directory is a very "light" piece of code, but it is still additional load  - particularly for those who are on older machines, browsers, or slower dial-up type internet access.

Of course, the .pdf file gives you all the functionality of a straight html, without the extra load. However, the way it is set up now, you have to load the page to get to the .pdf. So, what I can do is add a link to the .pdf from the "Downloads" page, so you can bypass the breeder's directory, if you so desire.  You can also opt to turn off java script in your browser: of course that turns it off for all websites, not just this page on this website.

Now, let's talk about CSS, or Cascading Style Sheets. The entire website is built with CSS, but there is no additional load for a website visitor. There are many pros to CSS development - among them, better website consistency, faster web development, standardized formats, etc.

Not using CSS would mean a major overhaul of the entire website, as well as higher maintenance time going forward. If you could share why you don't like CSS, maybe I can help figure out a way for you to avoid it.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 21, 2015, 07:20:09 PM
Hi Folks

FWIW, I would like a straight HTML page, no JavaScript, no CSS, no extra loading,  of all the breeders in straight alphabetical order, that I can just do a CTL F (Win-Linux) on and find what I want.  Thanks

Hi Sue

I can understand not wanting a page with JavaScript. There are lots of folks that prefer not to have JS files loaded. The js that runs the sort feature on the interactive breeder's directory is a very "light" piece of code, but it is still additional load  - particularly for those who are on older machines, browsers, or slower dial-up type internet access.

Of course, the .pdf file gives you all the functionality of a straight html, without the extra load. However, the way it is set up now, you have to load the page to get to the .pdf. So, what I can do is add a link to the .pdf from the "Downloads" page, so you can bypass the breeder's directory, if you so desire.  You can also opt to turn off java script in your browser: of course that turns it off for all websites, not just this page on this website.

Now, let's talk about CSS, or Cascading Style Sheets. The entire website is built with CSS, but there is no additional load for a website visitor. There are many pros to CSS development - among them, better website consistency, faster web development, standardized formats, etc.

Not using CSS would mean a major overhaul of the entire website, as well as higher maintenance time going forward. If you could share why you don't like CSS, maybe I can help figure out a way for you to avoid it.

I'm don't think that is a good idea.  New people browsing the site or looking for the breeders directory specifically will likely miss that pdf file.  They will see breeders directory and thats it.  Why look for it under Downloads?
I think a better idea would be (and there may be technical reasons it can't be done) once you click on the breeders directory you have the option (two buttons) to go to the pdf file or chose the interactive file.  Like I said, none of the phone numbers work for me in the interactive file and really, IE9 is not that old and ancient.  I'm sure many still use it.  While it may be easy to tell members to update their IE, you can't do that with visitors or potential customers.  And the breeder's directory, I would think, is more about reaching customers than members.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 21, 2015, 07:25:40 PM
Sharon, what do you mean the phone numbers don't work? You mean on your cell phone? The phone numbers are set up to work with mobile phones.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 21, 2015, 08:28:19 PM
Sharon, what do you mean the phone numbers don't work? You mean on your cell phone? The phone numbers are set up to work with mobile phones.

What do you mean the phone #'s are meant to work with mobile phones?  I imagine when I click on the icon for phone that the phone number of the person I'm interested in contacting will display.  Is that not how it's supposed to work?

And you took away the option to visit a persons website in the .pdf file.   :(

Use to be able to just click it before and it took you to it.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 22, 2015, 08:23:51 AM

What do you mean the phone #'s are meant to work with mobile phones?  I imagine when I click on the icon for phone that the phone number of the person I'm interested in contacting will display.  Is that not how it's supposed to work?
  Well, when you highlight any link, anywhere on the internet, the link will be displayed at the bottom left of your screen, but the intent here is so the site is mobile phone compatible. When you are on a mobile phone and click on the phone icon, it displays the number in the dialing window of your phone. You just click on call and you're connected. Just like the email icon connects you to your email software and website icons connect you to a website.


And you took away the option to visit a persons website in the .pdf file.
That is temporary. That is a manual process that is time-intensive and I just haven't had the time to go back through and re-do the entire 12 pages of listings.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 22, 2015, 10:56:36 AM

What do you mean the phone #'s are meant to work with mobile phones?  I imagine when I click on the icon for phone that the phone number of the person I'm interested in contacting will display.  Is that not how it's supposed to work?
  Well, when you highlight any link, anywhere on the internet, the link will be displayed at the bottom left of your screen, but the intent here is so the site is mobile phone compatible. When you are on a mobile phone and click on the phone icon, it displays the number in the dialing window of your phone. You just click on call and you're connected. Just like the email icon connects you to your email software and website icons connect you to a website.


And you took away the option to visit a persons website in the .pdf file.
That is temporary. That is a manual process that is time-intensive and I just haven't had the time to go back through and re-do the entire 12 pages of listings.

That's nice but you do realize you are alienating a whole group of people who do not use smart phones?  Can we at least have an phone number icon for those who just wish to call on a regualr phone? 
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Holiday Hatch on February 22, 2015, 12:42:45 PM
Sharon - Thanks for speaking up about things such as the phone icon.  I'm probably one of the least computer literate people, plus I have an older computer and NO smart phone.   Therefore I haven't made comments about website changes because my system is outdated.  I thought the phone icon didn't work on my computer, but finally found the number at the bottom left of the page.   Linda   
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 22, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
Sharon - Thanks for speaking up about things such as the phone icon.  I'm probably one of the least computer literate people, plus I have an older computer and NO smart phone.   Therefore I haven't made comments about website changes because my system is outdated.  I thought the phone icon didn't work on my computer, but finally found the number at the bottom left of the page.   Linda   

Oh, I see it now.  That's something I've never seen before.  Would have never thought to look for a phone or email way down there.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 22, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
I've added an expanding menu,so you now have the option of just going to the page to print the .pdf file or to the online interactive breeder's directory. Of course, the online version also has a link to the printable .pdf.

I have some hard deadlines at work this week, as well as getting out the bulletin, so won't be around as much this week. Have fun!
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 24, 2015, 07:24:38 PM
While the resolution and size of text on your screen will be largely determined by the age, size, and settings of your monitor, there are a few work-arounds available for those of us who's eyes haven't kept up with our youthful appearance. ;)

The new Breeder's Directory .pdf format is a spreadsheet format. All the codes have been removed, so you can see at a glance what each person breeds and sells. To me, it is easier to use, but I realize to some the print can appear small. So, here's a tip that some of you may not be aware of.  This will work on any .pdf file anywhere on the internet.

After you have opened a .pdf file (there are many on the website - everything from the Breeder's Directory to points, breed history, etc), just wave your mouse cursor over the bottom right hand corner of the screen.

A small black menu should appear that looks like the one below.

(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-menu.jpg)

There are six options on this menu:

(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-menu-1.jpg) - Clicking on this will auto fit the page to fit in the screen. This may actually shrink the image being displayed, depending on the resolution of your monitor.  A before and after picture are shown below.
(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-full-screen-before-after.jpg)

(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-menu-2.jpg) - Clicking on this will expand the image to fill the screen width. This will almost always enlarge the image as shown before.
(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-widen-before-after.jpg)

(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-menu-3.jpg)
(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-menu-4.jpg)
 -These next two are for shrinking ( minus sign) or enlarging (plus sign) the image on the screen. With these two tools, you can make the text as large as you need it to be. The image below shows it enlarged.
(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-enlarge-before-after.jpg)

(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-menu-5.jpg) - Clicking this will bring up a menu to save this pdf to your computer.

(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pdf-menu-6.jpg) - Clicking this will bring up a menu to print this pdf.

Hope this helps!  Note that the images above are not "life-size" and were shrunk to be easily displayed in this window. All of the "normal"  images are on the left and the after-affects are displayed on the right.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 26, 2015, 12:29:10 AM
The Breeders Directory link no longer works.  At least it doesn't work for me.  Can anyone else access it?

Bad time of the year to not have that available.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Mindy and Tom Best on February 26, 2015, 05:15:23 AM
I am able to open the online and .pdf version.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 26, 2015, 06:39:10 AM
The Breeders Directory link no longer works.  At least it doesn't work for me.  Can anyone else access it?

Bad time of the year to not have that available.

Sharon, could you please be more specific? What is not working? Can you not see the links, is it stalling, are you getting an error message... What?
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Jean on February 26, 2015, 09:19:11 AM
It works for me too, no problems.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 26, 2015, 11:38:07 AM
The Breeders Directory link no longer works.  At least it doesn't work for me.  Can anyone else access it?

Bad time of the year to not have that available.

Sharon, could you please be more specific? What is not working? Can you not see the links, is it stalling, are you getting an error message... What?

When I click on the breeders directory link on the left of the page, the page goes absolutely nowhere.  All the other links on that side of the page work, but not that one.  For example, if I'm on the downloads page and hit the breeders directory link on the left, I end up staying on the downloads page.  If I'm on the homepage and hit the breeders link, I stay on the homepage.  This started day before yesterday and is still doing the same thing.  All the other links work, so I don't see how it can be something I'm doing.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Birdcrazy on February 26, 2015, 12:50:35 PM


When I click on the breeders directory link on the left of the page, the page goes absolutely nowhere.  All the other links on that side of the page work, but not that one.  For example, if I'm on the downloads page and hit the breeders directory link on the left, I end up staying on the downloads page.  If I'm on the homepage and hit the breeders link, I stay on the homepage.  This started day before yesterday and is still doing the same thing.  All the other links work, so I don't see how it can be something I'm doing.
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Sharon, When you click on the breeders directory does it open 2 new boxes to the right? One should say print only (pdf) the other says online interactive. If you click on one of the 2 it should take you to the format you wish to use. I hope this helps!
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 26, 2015, 02:48:31 PM


When I click on the breeders directory link on the left of the page, the page goes absolutely nowhere.  All the other links on that side of the page work, but not that one.  For example, if I'm on the downloads page and hit the breeders directory link on the left, I end up staying on the downloads page.  If I'm on the homepage and hit the breeders link, I stay on the homepage.  This started day before yesterday and is still doing the same thing.  All the other links work, so I don't see how it can be something I'm doing.


Sharon, When you click on the breeders directory does it open 2 new boxes to the right? One should say print only (pdf) the other says online interactive. If you click on one of the 2 it should take you to the format you wish to use. I hope this helps!

No, nothing.  That is what is missing.  I've looked left, I've looked right, up, down in the bar at the left hand corner, etc.  I'm just on the same home page.  Nothing changes.  All other links work, like I said, but the breeders directory link does not work on any of those pages either.  I just always stay on the same page I am on.  Does anyone with IE 9 experience this?  I don't understand why other links work but not this one.
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 26, 2015, 03:28:17 PM
Sharon, if you would like to text me your phone number, I will call and see if there isn't something I can do to help you. My number is 803.508.9794.
I'm sitting at the tire store getting new tires on the van, so you will have my undivided attention. :)
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Johnny Parks on February 27, 2015, 07:35:52 AM
The breeders directory want open for me either when I click on it.  Just refreshes the page I'm on and never opens.  Is it just me or are others still having problems with it also?
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on February 27, 2015, 09:11:52 AM
Ok, due to the number of folks having a problem with the sub-menu working, I've changed it back to the regular menu and added an option for just the .pdf.

Be sure to refresh your browsers. If you don't see a menu that looks like the one below, keep hitting refresh until you do. Hope this helps everyone

(http://sandcastlesfarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/vertical-menu.jpg)
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 27, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
Ok, that is now working for me.  I didn't even have to refresh the page.

Johnny, I'm curious.  Are you using IE 9?
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Fyremare on March 01, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
I got to it, but the print is so small I can't even read it to tell you if my info is correct. Nevermind trying to find information on it. Not sure what the problem is there but hope it can be more (old eyes) reader friendly...
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Fyremare on March 02, 2015, 10:21:26 AM
I found a way to read it, bu increasing the size on the PDF page....
Title: Re: New Breeder's Directory format
Post by: Susan Mouw on March 02, 2015, 10:39:15 AM
I found a way to read it, bu increasing the size on the PDF page....

I uploaded a new one this morning, with larger font. I think you'll like it.