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Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Have you checked your grow out pens lately?
« Last post by Susan Mouw on October 17, 2017, 12:52:37 PM »
Remember this is the final for High Point awards - both National and Overall, so get those Meet Reports in!
Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Have you checked your grow out pens lately?
« Last post by Kelly Gore on October 17, 2017, 10:56:13 AM »
Thanks! I just read the bulletin this morning.
Exhibiting & Promoting / Heart of Dixie, Anniston AL - 11/4/17
« Last post by Susan Mouw on October 16, 2017, 11:28:03 AM »
I'll get the full report done over the next day or so, but it was a great weekend at Heart of Dixie!  For the first time since I've been showing there (this was my third year at that show), we had a great line-up of Ameraucanas.  19 LF with 4 exhibitors and 4 bantams with 1 exhibitor!

CH AOSB, both shows - black Ameraucana pullet, shown by Susan Mouw
Reserve CH AOSB, both shows - black Ameraucana hen, shown by Lindsay Helton.

Lindsay took home some other Best of Varieties, as well, in blue wheaten, buff, white, and self-blue.  I got another Best of Variety in one show with my blue pullet and she took Reserve BV in the second show.

Great show, great folks! 
Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Have you checked your grow out pens lately?
« Last post by Birdcrazy on October 16, 2017, 06:57:45 AM »
Kelly, Larry said he was going to the Ohio National Show in Columbus Ohio on November 11. He is going to see what they will offer for a 2018 ABC National Show. He will make his decision on a location when he returns.
Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Have you checked your grow out pens lately?
« Last post by Don on October 15, 2017, 08:25:30 PM »
Kelly,  The 2018 National rotates to the North East District next year.  Larry has mentioned in the bulletin that he was thinking of one of the shows in Ohio unless he changes his mind between now and Nov.
Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Have you checked your grow out pens lately?
« Last post by Kelly Gore on October 15, 2017, 06:59:05 PM »
Good luck all and have fun! Do we know where the 2018 Nationals will be?
Bidding Opens Sunday!!  Send your bid, with the item number of what you're bidding on to  Be sure to put "Silent Auction" in the subject line.
Housing, Health & Hatching / Diatomaceous Earth
« Last post by Sarah Meaders on October 11, 2017, 07:38:32 AM »
This post is about Diatomaceous Earth. Full disclosure, I am NOT an expert with this stuff at all, nor am I experienced enough to be considered "wise counsel" with pest/parasite control in animals. This is my experience.

For anyone who uses DE in any aspect, PLEASE DO NOT ignore the recommendation to WEAR A MASK. No matter how many times you have used it with no issues, WEAR A DANG MASK. And NEVER dust ANYTHING in an enclosed space. I don't care how windy it is, wait until the wind stops if you must, but do NOT dust your birds inside an enclosed area. Here's why...please read every word.

Almost two years ago, I dusted my Australorps inside their pen, which was enclosed on three sides for the winter. Since it was very nice outside, I didn't wear my normal face mask. One hen got irritated at me and began flapping like crazy after I dusted her, sending DE dust in the air all around me. I thought nothing of it and kept on. I did, however, send my son away to avoid the dust. The next day, her eye was very swollen, but she acted fine. She never did show any other symptoms of distress or illness.

Now, me, on the other hand, whole different story. Two days after I dusted her, I felt myself getting sick, as if I had caught the flu. I fought it with my regular go to remedies, but by the second day, which was three days after dusting them, I was on the couch with not even enough energy to get up and get myself a drink. I was running 102+, was obviously very dehydrated, and having a hard time breathing. Went to ER, tested negative for the flu, Chest XRay was not very impressive, but my doctor's gut told him I had to have had pneumonia, even though all diagnostics said I didn't. My breath sounds were not junky, just very diminished. It was obvious to him I was not moving air as an otherwise very healthy 40 year old should be.

My second night in the hospital, my heart started bottoming out; as in going down into the high 20's and low 30's, it started having 2nd degree type 2 blocks, and my blood pressure was bottoming out. I could not be supine without having crushing chest pain, and I was not responding to antibiotics. They did a CT on my chest, and they finally saw severe abnormalities in my lungs right over my heart. This was a very odd form of pneumonia. Even my cardiologist was scratching his head after he did an echo and a few other basic heart tests.

I was finally discharged from the hospital after a WEEK. I had to take breathing treatments at LEAST twice a day to even be able to breath enough to walk across my house. My heart continued slowing down, and I couldn't sleep in my bed for weeks from the crushing chest pain when I lied down flat. Several months later, I saw a pulmonologist and we walked through the entire ordeal. She noted that it took nearly six months for my lungs to clear out based on the many CT Scans I had. Even with a clear CT, I was still on daily asthma medication and needed my inhaler daily. I could not handle even the slightest smell without having an asthma attack. I had to change deodorants, my daughters couldn't spray their hair, I could no longer burn candles; it was bad.

While talking to my pulmonologist, she asked me about the days leading up to me falling ill. It was then that I remembered dusting my Australorps. She concluded without a doubt that I had breathed in the DE like my hen did, and the result was "Chemically Induced Pneumonia" caused by the DE. The damage was severe enough that my heart responded by decreasing the work load on my lungs until they healed. If I hadn't went to the hospital, and if my doctor hadn't have trusted his gut against all diagnostics, I would've died there on my couch.

Today, nearly two years later, I am FINALLY off of daily asthma meds, but I still use my inhaler a couple times a month. I can handle most smells better, but only in small quantities. My heart still slows down and goes into arrythmias occasionally, but not near as often. I cannot walk or work near as long as I once could without gasping for air and my heart protesting. I will have to be seen by my pulmonologist regularly to monitor for long term damage. DE has been known to cause cancer later, so we will be watching my lungs closely for the rest of my life.

All of this because I didn't wear a mask. I will continue to use DE, but I will NEVER dust in an enclosed space like that, whether I have a mask or not. I am lucky my hen didn't get sick.

Please PLEASE don't mess around with dusts of any kind, be it DE or any other. Even if I use ash, I will wear a mask. Foreign substances have no business being in the lungs of anyone, and the cilia of the nose and the defense mechanisms of the lungs can only filter out so much. Please wear masks when working with things that can get airborne. Your life could very well depend on it.
Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Feed options
« Last post by Don on October 09, 2017, 09:01:19 AM »
I forgot to mention some of the other sources of protein that I've seen folks use over time.  Nutritional or Brewers Yeast adds a lot of nutrients as well as some protein content.  And some folks have used to some of the  seaweed powders as well as a number of oils, such as cod liver, wheat germ oils and "Red Cell" supplement.  Also, I still think it is helpful to give them sprouted grains during times of stress and especially in the winter months.  They also enjoy grass cuttings when they are available in the growing season.  Then in the winter or early spring they love the honey suckle vines and flowers too.  We used to be able to buy some horse vitamin supplements, but the prices on these have gone way outside my budget.   
Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Scales for poultry weights
« Last post by Don on October 09, 2017, 08:52:36 AM »
Thank you Paul.  That looks like it will work great.  I will send you an email to discuss the process of weighing that you've seen work best.   
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