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The Official Forum of the Ameraucana Breeders Club => Breeding => Topic started by: HappyMtn on March 03, 2012, 06:07:38 PM
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Hi All!
A few of you know I have been playing around with lavender cuckoo (just for fun, because I can) and coming up with some crazy stuff- like the blue silver cuckoo that popped up. We also had a grey chipmunk chick hatch last week that is feathering in lavender. I am going to try and post a few pics, but last time it told me they were too big.
So far all of my females appear solid lavender. Only the males are showing any pattern, and it is excessively white.
As expected, the legs on the males are also much lighter, but not far off from my juvenile wheatens legs. The females have nice dark slate legs.
Nope didn\'t work- how do I make the pics smaller without permanently shrinking them?
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Try this again!
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One more- if it will let me....this is so confusing.
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Ok...still working on this.
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baby pic
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how do I make the pics smaller without permanently shrinking them?
I make a copy of the pic I want to post and give it a different name (save as). I then open that photo in some software that I can edit it in (MicroSoft Office Picture Manager) and crop it as much as possible. Then I resize it until it is just under 75kb, save it and post it. You can add several to one post.
When we upgrade to a newer board/forum it will show a thumbnail or small photo in the post that will enlarge when clicked on...kuhl!
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Try this again!
The lighter one is that the one that was gray with chipmunk stripes?
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No- that one was lav as a baby.
Ths lav chipmunk one is still a baby. I have a great pic but the forum says \"You cannot attach files of that type\".
I can email it to you if you want. Different than the blue silver cuckoo chick that I have growing out from the same eggs
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Amy, I have a free Photobucket account where I upload my pictures, then just image tag them in my post. Since the picture is actually stored on the Photobucket site and you\'re just linking to it, those things don\'t seem to matter. It\'s an extra step to upload them there and then link them, but it saves a lot of aggravation (not to mention space on my harddrive).
Lets you post a bigger picture.
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maybe I was doing something wrong....
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Here is the older chipmunk that grew up to be blue silver w/cuckoo. She was a brown chipmnk though, not lav like the other.
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Where is the cuckoo on her? I\'m still trying to learn some of these patterns, lol!!!
She sort of looks like a young silver, but not exactly.......
She is very pretty, and I\'m sure very silly and sweet like your other birds!!!!
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Where is the cuckoo on her? I\'m still trying to learn some of these patterns, lol!!!
She sort of looks like a young silver, but not exactly.......
She is very pretty, and I\'m sure very silly and sweet like your other birds!!!!
She is blue silver ( i am finding out that some lavenders can carry it, or it might be my Garner black, ro both)
But she also has cuckoo- you can see it on her back. I would say she is single barred, and a male might show the cuckoo more.
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Where is the cuckoo on her? I\'m still trying to learn some of these patterns, lol!!!
She sort of looks like a young silver, but not exactly.......
She is very pretty, and I\'m sure very silly and sweet like your other birds!!!!
She is blue silver ( i am finding out that some lavenders can carry it, or it might be my Garner black, ro both)
But she also has cuckoo- you can see it on her back. I would say she is single barred, and a male might show the cuckoo more.
I can definitely see it in that picture.... Thanks for explaining it!!!!!
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I have some updated pics. I like this little guy so much, I am finishing up sending out a couple sets of eggs and I am diving back into it. I am also getting some nice lavenders, blacks and splits in the meantime- so why not?
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Next to a regular lavender pullet.
Jerry- if you see this- you were right about the legs. The lav cuckoos still have slate very similar to the wheatens, but the regular cuckoo have splotchy legs so far.
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Yes it seems lavender cuckoo and lavender barred are compatiable with the slate leg requirement of the standard.The K or slow feathered gene is not prohibited by the standard.The barred rock breeders do not seem to have a problem with increased susceptability to marecks disease.While some may consider the K gene undesirable it will be up to each breeder to decide if he wants it.I have a few barred rocks for brown eggs.I like the color and have no problems with the K gene.I do not have K in my lavenders.So it seems this was picked up by some by using a outcross to breeds that carry the K gene.I give up trying to reason with the naysayers.Welcome lavender cuckoo and lavender barred projects.
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I wouldn\'t say these are slow feathering though. I am wondering if there will be any benefit from having the marans\' more hard-feather in its make-up? I am going to grow out a few good roos to see if it helps with fretting.
It almost seems like lavender is just not meant for softer feathered breeds.
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A harder feathered bird would get rid of the fluff.You would pickup the dark brown egg color {olive egger} but new hollands are said to lay white eggs with red ear lobes.This could elinimante the green eggs.Selection required but can be done.Result would be nice blue eggs in time.Some good blacks with good egg color and not much fluff would be quicker.I am thinking Paul Smith bred.Excellent show stock already.Less time,less feed,less pen space.I see some Smith line on ebay now.I think I may buy for this project.Straight from Paul would be best but these are eggs and will be less cost than chicks.No offense to Paul.Just making a cost drcision.
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I am also trying the columbian gene and silkie idea on the regular cuckoo.I will keep you informed on the results.I love genetics.Self taught backyard style of course.Theories are fine but results are better information.
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One of my split hens is from Crystalcreek\'s Smith birds. She\'s a nice looking girl. The marans that I used to start this laid a nearly white egg and had clean shanks. I haven\'t had any feathered legs pop up yet, but a few single combs and clean faces. To be expected.
I am loving the look and temperment of these guys. Can\'t wait to see what kind of egg color we get. The f1 culls lay nice blue eggs, and the f2s should be laying this summer.
Yes- keep me posted on what you get to happen with the silkies. That was suggested to me, but I don\'t raise them.
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a white silkie rooster is on my shopping list.None at the sale barn yet.A swap meet at Kankakee Il april 1 should have some if none show up by then.
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A harder feathered bird would get rid of the fluff.You would pickup the dark brown egg color {olive egger} but new hollands are said to lay white eggs with red ear lobes.This could elinimante the green eggs.Selection required but can be done.Result would be nice blue eggs in time.Some good blacks with good egg color and not much fluff would be quicker.I am thinking Paul Smith bred.Excellent show stock already.Less time,less feed,less pen space.I see some Smith line on ebay now.I think I may buy for this project.Straight from Paul would be best but these are eggs and will be less cost than chicks.No offense to Paul.Just making a cost drcision.
I crossed my Shaffer Lav cock to my Smith hens last year. This year I have about bred the split x splits and hatched almost 100 chicks to get 20 Lavs. I am getting more Blacks from Paul this year to continue this process. In addition to being beautiful Blacks, the eggs size and color this year from the 2010 hens is great.
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Cool!!
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I was really looking forward to diving back into this project. Got back from out of town to find 5 of my 6 girls in this pen all broody. Going to be a long summer!!!!!
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Amy, here is a pic of a cockeral from your eggs. I know the legs are an issue but he is very pretty and I can\'t wait for him to mature and get that beautiful tail in . Hard to see the cuckoo but I am going to try to get better pictures when the lighting cooperates.
(http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq88/jiweha/LavCuckooCockeral1-1-1.jpg)
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I was really looking forward to diving back into this project. Got back from out of town to find 5 of my 6 girls in this pen all broody. Going to be a long summer!!!!!
I have two broodies.....
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I didn\'t see these new posts til just now- must have unsubscribed by mistake or something!
Looking good Cindy!
Crystalcreek- that hen looks HUGE. LOL!
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You\'d be huge, too, if you had 20 chicks parked under you! She hatched some and so did her daughter, both on the same day thanks to some careful setting of the eggs under both! I\'m letting the more experienced, older hen raise them. It\'s working great so far. Imagine her suprise when I add 25 black ones this next week from Paul. We\'ll see if she adopts them all or not.
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lol! I have had cochins like that- \"Give me ALL the babies!!!!!\"
Having that whole pen go worked out good for me. I know the waterfowl only take an extra week to hatch, but they seem to tie up the incubators forever.
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You\'d be huge, too, if you had 20 chicks parked under you! She hatched some and so did her daughter, both on the same day thanks to some careful setting of the eggs under both! I\'m letting the more experienced, older hen raise them. It\'s working great so far. Imagine her suprise when I add 25 black ones this next week from Paul. We\'ll see if she adopts them all or not.
I would be very surprised if she didn\'t try to kill them. Be careful.
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I have noticed that all the birds are more prone to pick on a newcomer if it is a different color. You\'re right; I better not chance it. Maybe I\'ll give them to the other broody instead. I\'ll have to divide the pen in half to separate them.
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Going to try an post an updated pic of my little cockerel. His legs are very pale blue, btu I love the barring in his tail. Haven't posted here since the changes.
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Some updated pics from August:
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Another:
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Some new chicks hatched by a wheaten Am broody. You can see the nice clear head spot:
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One more pic- color comparison of lav cuckoo and blue cuckoo. The blue is a marans.
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Looks like I will have a few chicks available later this week if anybody wants to get in on this. Pick up in SE TN- 1 hour N of Chattanooga.
Also- its cooled off enough to ship, so I can save up eggs as well.
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Here is a picture of a beauty from your eggs Amy. I thought I would share with everyone. Actually 3 pictures. I know the leg color with cuckoos is an issue but I am working on that ;) . I love them ;D . The hatch mates to these (pullets) have dark slate shanks but they are black and lavender, no cuckoo.
And the last two pics is the same cock just two angles to show is unique and lovely color. His shanks are just like the pullets. I think I have found him a home locally as I can't use him in my breeding plan. Thanks so much Amy for sharing your beautiful birds with me!!!!
(http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq88/jiweha/New%20Album/Brothers.jpg)
(http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq88/jiweha/New%20Album/LavCreamCol.jpg)
(http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq88/jiweha/New%20Album/LavCreamColRooster.jpg)
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Thanks Cindy!
OK- question- was the last roo one of the chimpmunk looking babies? I have been talking to Harry and he think we might have lav silver on our hands. That would probably be what one would look like. Wild!
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Yes, here is a picture of him as a baby. I called him owl face :D because of that yellow around the face. But he grew into that big beautiful boy.
(http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq88/jiweha/New%20Album/IMG_0142.jpg)
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Wow! Yes- those are the stripes! How interesting. He must not have any cuckoo in him- look at those legs!
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I would guess that is what is at work as well. The black boys that I rehomed had silver leakage in the saddle and hackle feathers. I have the 1 Lavender Rooster from that very first batch of eggs from you and he is absolutely stunning. No leakage of any type at all!! I plan on using him in my lavender pen as he is the best lavender specimen I have come across yet.
I wish I lived closer I would think about meeting you to get some of those chicks :'(
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The solid lav pullets I got from that generation are really nice too.
I can send you some eggs from the next generation if you want, but I have no cuckoo girls so any barred ones will be single factor.
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Almost forgot this thread was here! Getting ready top hatch from the next generation. I have a decent lav roo that I am putting over the whole flock, including a pale slate-legged lav cuckoo pullet and a cuckopo split for lav pullet. They have both finally started laying and egg color is a super saturated teal.