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News and Information / Re: Proposed change in APA Standard for Blue Wheaten males
« on: March 25, 2018, 04:59:23 PM »
I know the officers decided against approving or presenting or whatever the discussed change. However, after a discussion over the weekend regarding the change being considered on the Blue Wheaten male color I came home and dug out my APA and ABA Standards thinking I must have missed something important along the line regards this particular variety. Both standards clearly refer to "laced" not edged in the Blue Wheaten male. The ONLY reference I can find to "edging" is on Page 8 of the APA SOP referring to some varieties of Rocks, Wyandottes, and Turkeys. No mention of shafting. I personally think this discussion is a waste of time and do not understand the reason for the issue in the first place. It is splitting hairs over two words....
I am quite sure neither the ABA Standard nor APA Standard are in any danger of changing in my forseeable future for such an insignificant issue. Since those Standards are what we show to... those are what I will continue to try to breed to irregardless of how a breed club votes.
There was some mention of this having something to do with research on the Splash wheaten males. If so, it is a non issue with me. I have raised enough of the Splash Wheaten males...Bantams predominately...to see no issue with "laced", "edged" or shafting (or lack thereof which I will not use) of the base Blue Wheaten Males. I have four Bantam SpWh males right now that are as alike as peas in a pod in body color...no red ticking in the breast on three and only 1 or 2 small spots in the other...all sired by the same bird and out of different females. I can tell you right now that the Large Fowl and the Bantams are going to express color in the breast differently. My large Fowl SpWh male is very heavily ticked in red on the breast although body color is identical to the bantams. My original Blue Wheaten male was identical to my Bantam male in lacing and shafting. I have never used a Blue Wheaten male with red ticking in the breast. I will be breeding my second generation of Splash Wheatens ( from Splash Wheatens)this spring and will have a more solid handle on my own answers. At this time I see no revelence as regards the Splash Wheaten male to the issue being discussed.
You can "study" a subject to death but genetics being what they are....just as soon as you think you have found the answer you find out you know nothing. With untold numbers of possible gene pairings each time a cross is made anything is possible. That's not to say that one should not research what they want to do but nothing takes the place of practical application in breeding and raising. You just start with the best you have and go from there, hoping you made good decisions
I will continue to use the ABA/APA SOPs as written until they change. Any of the above is simply my opinion for what its worth.
Peggy
I am quite sure neither the ABA Standard nor APA Standard are in any danger of changing in my forseeable future for such an insignificant issue. Since those Standards are what we show to... those are what I will continue to try to breed to irregardless of how a breed club votes.
There was some mention of this having something to do with research on the Splash wheaten males. If so, it is a non issue with me. I have raised enough of the Splash Wheaten males...Bantams predominately...to see no issue with "laced", "edged" or shafting (or lack thereof which I will not use) of the base Blue Wheaten Males. I have four Bantam SpWh males right now that are as alike as peas in a pod in body color...no red ticking in the breast on three and only 1 or 2 small spots in the other...all sired by the same bird and out of different females. I can tell you right now that the Large Fowl and the Bantams are going to express color in the breast differently. My large Fowl SpWh male is very heavily ticked in red on the breast although body color is identical to the bantams. My original Blue Wheaten male was identical to my Bantam male in lacing and shafting. I have never used a Blue Wheaten male with red ticking in the breast. I will be breeding my second generation of Splash Wheatens ( from Splash Wheatens)this spring and will have a more solid handle on my own answers. At this time I see no revelence as regards the Splash Wheaten male to the issue being discussed.
You can "study" a subject to death but genetics being what they are....just as soon as you think you have found the answer you find out you know nothing. With untold numbers of possible gene pairings each time a cross is made anything is possible. That's not to say that one should not research what they want to do but nothing takes the place of practical application in breeding and raising. You just start with the best you have and go from there, hoping you made good decisions
I will continue to use the ABA/APA SOPs as written until they change. Any of the above is simply my opinion for what its worth.
Peggy