Ameraucana Breeders Club
The Official Forum of the Ameraucana Breeders Club => Breeding => Topic started by: Don on December 31, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
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from the membership form
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Bantam Lavender, 2005
Large Fowl Lavender, 2005
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Working with very small numbers, with none to offer at this time, in the following project varieties
Lav bantam 2010
Birchen bantam 2012
LF. Spash 2011
LF. Splash Wheaten 2011
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Lav LF 2010
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Currently have small flocks of each:
Black Mottled Ameraucana 2014
Lavender Ameraucana 2014
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Don, are you looking for LF Splash Wheaten?
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Working with the following:
Large Fowl Splash Wheaten 2016
Bantam Splash Wheaten 2016
Black Mottled Large Fowl 2015
Self Blue Bantams 2016
Chocolate Bantams 2016
My numbers are so limited that I do not have anything available at this time.
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Hello all,
I am interested in becoming involved in the bantam splash wheaten project and am wondering how many birds does that involve, housing you all use or recommend, and record keeping. Thanks!!
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The recognition process is a lengthy process which will require a lot of effort from many people who will commit to breeding them. The first step is to acquire some and join the APA and ABA.
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I am working with Splash Bantams now and would focus on LF when we decide to start working with getting them accepted. I realize that the Self Blues are our focus now, but thought that we agreed to work on Splash next. It could have been a misunderstanding on my part. Anyone who breeds Blues, can work with Splashes.
Ernie Haire
Poultry 2XL
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I am working with Splash Bantams now and would focus on LF when we decide to start working with getting them accepted. I realize that the Self Blues are our focus now, but thought that we agreed to work on Splash next. It could have been a misunderstanding on my part. Anyone who breeds Blues, can work with Splashes.
Ernie Haire
Poultry 2XL
You're right, Ernie. Splash LF are next on the list. I think we're waiting to get a little closer in the Self-Blue, though, before we start that journey, as many of the same folks involved with self-blue will be involved with splash and we don't want to overload anyone.
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IMO we are not close with the Self Blue until we figure out a plan for the bantams and put this plan into action. We need to work on both LF and bantams in a comparable process, somehow, some way.
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IMO we are not close with the Self Blue until we figure out a plan for the bantams and put this plan into action. We need to work on both LF and bantams in a comparable process, somehow, some way.
I agree Don. It would be good to work on approval of the large fowl and the bantam color varieties simultaneously. Perhaps when acceptance of the next color variety is petitioned, a few folks can be identified to lead the LF fowl effort, and a few folks can be identified to lead the bantam effort. It seems that many that raise the LF color varieties that we are seeking approval for do not raise them in bantams, and likewise many that raise the bantams do not raise LF.
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Hopefully we have learned from our mistake and can do both LF and Bantam splash at the same time. Hopefully, we will not wait five years to be able to have 5 breeders who can sign an affidavit that they have bred the self blue bantams for 5 years while maintaining an APA membership, plus 2 years of prequalifying meets and 2 years of qualifying meets. I'll be ready to start the splash recognition project within two years-while I'm still young enough to ride or drive-mostly ride-a long distance. I think the bantam self blue recognition and splash recognition need to be simultaneously.
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One of the reasons we had to go the two year pre-qualifying route with LF self-blue is because we didn't have good records of how many C-H-K-P were shown in the previous years. If we had been able to establish that the appropriate numbers had been entered at the preceding shows, we might have been able to circumvent those two years.
Our meet report form doesn't require that the number of each sex entered be notated, but if we could remember to make a note of that for both self-blue and splash - in both bantam and large fowl - we might be able to cut that timeline down by half for future applications.
For example, I just finished a meet report for the Southwestern Exp - lots of birds there! - If you were there and can remember how many of each sex for both self-blue (bantam only) and splash (both bantam and large fowl), I would be happy to include it on our meet reports and then use it when we file for those applications.
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I can assure everyone that there was never a show with 4 self blue of each class before the prequalifying meet in Shawnee, OK. in Dec. 2016! The most I ever remember seeing was about 8 head at one of the national meets several years ago.
There was only 1 LF splash C shown, 5 splash bantams-2 pullets, 1 cockerel, 1 hen and 1 cock. There were 23 self blue bantams-8 pullets, 5 cockerels, 8 hens and 2 cocks. This show was two cocks short of qualifying for a prequalifying meet. My memory isn't that good-I checked my show records. LOL!
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My apologies. I didn't mean that we could have circumvented the prequalifying meets with self-blue large fowl. It was obvious from the history we did have that there were not sufficient numbers for the APA to grant us the go-ahead straight to the qualifying meets.
I guess what I meant to say, and just did a poor job of it, is if we start keeping those records now for self-blue bantam, and splash, large fowl and bantam, we might can shorten the life cycle of the approval time for those.
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If I understand correctly, the paper that we filled out at both Shawnee, OK. and Knoxville, TN. must be filled out at any show that happens to have the 4, 4, 4, 4 requirement, and signed by the judge.
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If I understand correctly, the paper that we filled out at both Shawnee, OK. and Knoxville, TN. must be filled out at any show that happens to have the 4, 4, 4, 4 requirement, and signed by the judge.
Well, it certainly wouldn't hurt, but I just sent a report in of entries over the last few years, that accompanied our application for self-blue. We have a pretty good relationship with Walt and the Standard Committee - if they have any questions, I'm sure they would just ask.
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Hello all,
I am interested in becoming involved in the bantam splash wheaten project and am wondering how many birds does that involve, housing you all use or recommend, and record keeping. Thanks!!
Hi Tiffany! The Splash Wheaten Project is in year three right now. We have a long ways to go! I am glad you are doing bantams because we don't seem to have as many bantam breeders as we do LF.
Right now we are doing several test breedings to learn some of the more head scratchers where the SW male phenotype is concerned. We have loads of "opinions" on what should be manifesting and what shouldn't, but not much science to back up anyone's opinions, including mine! So we are breaking ground there. This is going to be multiple years long.
I hope that this year solves a lot of mysterious and gets us closer to understanding the wheaten pattern with the homozygous Bl. Please feel free to ask any questions you have on what we have discovered thus far, read the articles on the SW FB page, or email me, FB message me and I will be glad to elaborate with pictures and our findings of the past two years! Welcome aboard!