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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Paul on February 20, 2018, 09:24:38 PM »
  I can assure everyone that there was never a show with 4 self blue of each class before the prequalifying meet in Shawnee, OK. in Dec. 2016!  The most I ever remember seeing was about 8 head at one of the national meets several years ago.

  There was only 1 LF splash C shown, 5 splash bantams-2 pullets, 1 cockerel, 1 hen and 1 cock.  There were 23 self blue bantams-8 pullets, 5 cockerels, 8 hens and 2 cocks.  This show was two cocks short of qualifying for a prequalifying meet.  My memory isn't that good-I checked my show records.  LOL!
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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Susan Mouw on February 20, 2018, 07:09:49 PM »
One of the reasons we had to go the two year pre-qualifying route with LF self-blue is because we didn't have good records of how many C-H-K-P were shown in the previous years.  If we had been able to establish that the appropriate numbers had been entered at the preceding shows, we might have been able to circumvent those two years.

Our meet report form doesn't require that the number of each sex entered be notated, but if we could remember to make a note of that for both self-blue and splash - in both bantam and large fowl - we might be able to cut that timeline down by half for future applications.

For example, I just finished a meet report for the Southwestern Exp - lots of birds there! - If you were there and can remember how many of each sex for both self-blue (bantam only) and splash (both bantam and large fowl), I would be happy to include it on our meet reports and then use it when we file for those applications.
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Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: New Junior Master Exhibitor and New Master Exhibitor
« Last post by Paul on February 20, 2018, 07:03:45 PM »
  Thanks Ernie, and congratulations to you on your recent wins at the Comanche show.  I can only imagine what its like to have a double, double show-trying to keep all the photos correct for four judgings.  Some of our Ameraucana shows have grown to be very large, making the AOSB class be one of the largest classes in LF.  I can see this happening in the bantams in the near future.  Looking forward to showing with you at Beaumont.
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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Paul on February 20, 2018, 06:59:31 PM »
  Hopefully we have learned from our mistake and can do both LF and Bantam splash at the same time.  Hopefully, we will not wait five years to be able to have 5 breeders who can sign an affidavit that they have bred the self blue bantams for 5 years while maintaining an APA membership, plus 2 years of prequalifying meets and 2 years of qualifying meets.  I'll be ready to start the splash recognition project within two years-while I'm still young enough to ride or drive-mostly ride-a long distance.  I think the bantam self blue recognition and splash recognition need to be simultaneously.
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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Lindsay Helton on February 20, 2018, 06:30:18 PM »
IMO we are not close with the Self Blue until we figure out a plan for the bantams and put this plan into action.  We need to work on both LF and bantams in a comparable process, somehow, some way.

I agree Don. It would be good to work on approval of the large fowl and the bantam color varieties simultaneously. Perhaps when acceptance of the next color variety is petitioned, a few folks can be identified to lead the LF fowl effort, and a few folks can be identified to lead the bantam effort. It seems that many that raise the LF color varieties that we are seeking approval for do not raise them in bantams, and likewise many that raise the bantams do not raise LF.
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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Don on February 20, 2018, 04:30:42 PM »
IMO we are not close with the Self Blue until we figure out a plan for the bantams and put this plan into action.  We need to work on both LF and bantams in a comparable process, somehow, some way.
 
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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Susan Mouw on February 20, 2018, 02:50:41 PM »
I am working with Splash Bantams now and would focus on LF when we decide to start working with getting them accepted. I realize that the Self Blues are our focus now, but thought that we agreed to work on Splash next. It could have been a misunderstanding on my part. Anyone who breeds Blues, can work with Splashes.

Ernie Haire
Poultry 2XL

You're right, Ernie.  Splash LF are next on the list.  I think we're waiting to get a little closer in the Self-Blue, though, before we start that journey, as many of the same folks involved with self-blue will be involved with splash and we don't want to overload anyone.
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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Ernie Haire on February 20, 2018, 02:37:29 PM »
I am working with Splash Bantams now and would focus on LF when we decide to start working with getting them accepted. I realize that the Self Blues are our focus now, but thought that we agreed to work on Splash next. It could have been a misunderstanding on my part. Anyone who breeds Blues, can work with Splashes.

Ernie Haire
Poultry 2XL
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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Paul on February 20, 2018, 11:20:20 AM »
  The recognition process is a lengthy process which will require a lot of effort from many people who will commit to breeding them.  The first step is to acquire some and join the APA and ABA.
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Breeding / Re: Documenting project colors for Qualifying meets
« Last post by Tiffiny Johnston Yoder on February 20, 2018, 09:12:35 AM »
Hello all,

I am interested in becoming involved in the bantam splash wheaten project and am wondering how many birds does that involve, housing you all use or recommend, and record keeping. Thanks!!
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