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The Official Forum of the Ameraucana Breeders Club => Housing, Health & Hatching => Topic started by: Jeffery and Cheryl Vance on June 06, 2014, 11:11:12 AM
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When mixing Ivomec with water how many cc per gallon ?
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1 1/2 cc/ml per gallon - injectable type.
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Thanks Jean How do u use the Sheep Drench Ivomec A Sheep farmer gave me a new bottle today?
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I've only used the injectable kind for cattle.
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I use the cattle strength, so adjust accordingly. I use an eyedropper. For large fowl, I put 7 to 10 drops on the bare skin above and below the vent and over the pin bones. The amount depends on size and whether they are infested or not. There is a high tolerance for this product. It has been used to treat humans for eye worm in third world countries according to reports I have read. For bantams, 4 or 5 drops should be enough. Some drop it into the mouth of the bird. There is no need for that, as it is absorbed into the system through the skin.
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Jeff, I agree 100%. I've been using Ivomec on my chickens for a long time .Ivomec pour on for cattle applied the way Mike described, I think is very effective and the easiest method to rid your chickens of worms, lice and mites.
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Mike and Clif We used the Ivomec sheep drench today very easy Cheryl helped which made very easy I caught she used the eye dropper she is the best helper i am very lucky. Thanks to both Mike and Clif for information.
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How long does this stuff remain effective and how long would you wait before eating eggs?
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Hi Sharon, On the directions the bottle says 48 days for slaughter. Remember this is for cattle and once again the bottle gives a residue warning, it reads a withdrawal time in milk has not been established.
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It lasts several months, you should check them from time to time after that. I figure if they can use it in humans, the trace amount in a few eggs shouldn't do any harm. Remember, we're talking mere drops as opposed to pouring quite a large amount on a steer or a deer. I'm sure it may not be recommended, but we don't withhold at all. So far we haven't grown any horns or a tail. And I seem to be free of parasites to boot! ;)
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Checked all birds that we used the Ivomec on and man what a job could not find nothing on them they even look a lot better act a lot better. Now when do u follow up on this and would u us frontline and another wormer.
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Hi Jeff, It last around three months. I never found it necessary to us other wormers with it, a good way to know your birds are worm free is their litter should be solid with a nice white cap.
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But if they aren't, how soon would you follow up with a second dose?
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I've never had Ivomec fail as a wormer, but if I didn't see results, I would try something else in a short time 5-6 day. If that doesn't work there may be something else wrong with the bird
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Mike, Cliff, are you using the pour on or the injectable with the eye dropper? The last time I used the Frontline it didn't work very well. Maybe I got a bad batch... I'm thinking about trying Ivomec this time.
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I use the pour on Max.
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Pour on. Cattle strength.
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Thanks, guys!
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This one, right?
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Yes.
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Max that was what I thought with the frontline also but I had not add no new for some time I thank they were just getting immune to the frontline but I do like the Ivomec had the NPIP here last week we caught up ever bird they look great so I have to credit this to the ivomec not the first unwanted bug on them . So I will us the ivomec the next time for sure .
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I have injectable Ivomec. Are you guys putting it in the water for worms? Will that also treat for mites? I have 200+ birds on my farm and I have a mite issue. Putting on each bird topically is quite a chore. Being able to put it in the water would be a life saver!!
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Mike, if you do a search on here you'll find I posted quite some time back about having a mite infestation. Brought 'em home from a show. Had no idea what was wrong as I'd never had mites or lice on my place prior to that. They spread like wildfire and I fought 'em for 3+yrs.
Long story short, during that time I tried Ivermectin Eprinex, Pyrethrins, Permethrin, Spidercides, and literally bathing them in DE myself. Sometimes in dosages way over the recommended. Many, many times I'd knock 'em back to pert near nothing but they'd always come back. And I swear the mites developed a resistance to the Pyrethins and Permethrins.
Finally I was Googling and came across an article somewhere about Frontline. Some scientist was giving a chemical breakdown with percentages of how much Fipronil a human would ingest if they ate the eggs from a bird treated with Frontline. (Not enough to come close to even worrying about) So I Googled Frontline and chickens and found a few posts that said to put 3-4 drops down by the vent and a 1-2 drops at the neck.
I went down to Wal-Mart and they had ProNyl about $20 cheaper than Frontline and it had the exact same ingredients and %% of Fipronil as Frontline. So I got the dosage for like the 135 lb. dog. Treated my whole flock (about 150 birds at that time) one Saturday night. The next day I hardly saw any mites. By the 3rd day I saw no mites. I think they recommend treating again after 30 days but I never saw another mite so I didn't. In fact, I've not seen one since.
God Bless,
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That's good information Royce. I have been using ivermectin for many years, so there is a good chance there could be an immunity build up at some point. I think I'll give your product a try next time I see mites here.
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It was explained to me to use each as they are intended. Meaning a drench should be ingested, a pour on should be put on the skin and an injectable should be injected. Each type is developed to be used a certain way, and has certain ingredients in it besides the wormer to make the delivery system best suited to each type of use.
Example: Using an injectable on the skin is much less efficient and lowers the ability of the wormer to work the way it was intended, making it much less effective.