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Upcoming Meets / 10/6/2023, Tulsa State Fair, Tulsa, OK
« on: September 01, 2023, 05:34:12 PM »
Show Name: Tulsa State Fair
Meet Type: Club
Show Start - End Dates: 10/6/2023
Host Club: Tulsa State Fair
Show Facility: Tulsa State Fairgrounds
Show Address: 4145 East 21st Street
Show City, St, Zip: Tulsa, OK 74114
Show Secretary: Mike Geis
Show Secretary's Contact: geismcloud@yahoo.com

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News and Information / Chicken Whisperer Magazine
« on: August 30, 2023, 01:05:31 PM »
Thank you Chicken Whisperer Magazine for sharing content about the ABC in your Fall 2023 magazine! Check it out beginning on page 34.

https://secure.viewer.zmags.com/publication/dce1987d#/dce1987d/1

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Per her parents:

Esta really enjoyed the experience showing at the Indiana State Fair, and as we were leaving Esta said, "see you next year fair." She's looking forward to showing more in the next year. She showed in the Junior Showmanship Class and placed 6th out of 13 kids. We are really proud of her especially because this was only her second time competing in showmanship and at least 3 of the top 5 were all older kids that will jump to the intermediate division next year.

Her Blue Hen placed 2nd in her class, won Best of Variety, and the Judge complemented her lacing. To top the weekend off Esta won AOV Market Eggs and was Reserve Grand Champion Market Eggs for the Indiana State Fair with her Blue Ameracauna Eggs.

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News and Information / New member goal met!
« on: August 29, 2023, 10:28:51 PM »
Congrats to the Board and Club! We met our new member goal for the year today!

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The color blue in poultry has caught my eye since I was a 10 year old boy. The illustrations of Blue Andalusians in books and magazines from the early 80’s were beautiful and I was excited to raise some of my own. So I ordered some chicks from a hatchery, but was soon disappointed as they grew, when they did not look like the illustrations. I often wondered if the beautiful pigeon blue with sharp black lacing really existed, having only seen it in paintings and illustrations. I raised poultry for most of my childhood, but drifted away from poultry after high school, as life went in many new directions.
 
My journey with the Blue Ameraucana started in 2010, as I returned to the poultry world after many years. After raising several breeds, I settled on the Ameraucana. I really liked the body type, the muffs and beard, and of course the blue eggs! Determined to learn as much and as quickly as I could, I searched for local breeders and joined the breed club. There I made new friends and discovered a wealth of information on breeding and genetics. 
 
As I searched the forums and websites, I noticed that the pictures of Blue Ameraucana did not have any lacing. In fact, most other breeds with a blue variety were missing the lacing. After talking with a few well known breeders, I decided to take on the challenge of bringing in the required genetics to breed a Blue Ameraucana with true lacing. So I went straight to the source… The Blue Andalusian, the standard for the color Blue in every other breed!
 
Finding quality Blue Andalusians was a challenge in itself. I eventually ordered some chicks from a well-known breeder and raised them up to breeding age. I selected the Blue Andalusians with the best lacing and crossed them to my best typed Blue Ameraucana.
 
The F1 crosses were very promising. They had good lacing, but terrible type, which was expected. They were bred back to the best typed Blue Ameraucana, and the F2’s were bred together. Hybrid vigor was helpful with egg production and breeding, but it only lasts for a generation or two. That’s why it’s important to balance your breeder selection between physical quality and productivity.
 
Breeding them back to good Ameraucana type has been a challenge, as it takes several generations for the blood to “settle” from a cross. Andalusian type is a long way from Ameraucana type. The biggest struggles have been the long backs in both sexes and pinched tails in the females. White ear lobes are also an issue and they still pop up in a few every year.
 
The genetics revolving around the interaction between true lacing and “edging” are cloudy at best, but there is something dominant related to edging that keeps popping up as well. It is important to breed only from the best laced birds. Lacing can be lost in a few generations if you don’t select your breeders carefully.
 
A good breeding plan is essential for a long term project. You can find yourself at a dead end if you’re not careful. A project of this magnitude is not a sprint. It is a marathon that will last for many, many years. After all, are we ever really satisfied? Keep striving for Perfection!

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Be sure to enter LF Splash Ameraucana at the 2023 Ohio National!

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Show Name:  Ontario Poultry Breeders Show
Meet Type: Club
Show Start - End Dates: 10/21/23 – 10/22/23
Host Club:   Ontario Poultry Breeders Association
Show Facility:  West Niagara Fairgrounds
Address: 7402 Mud Street Grassie, Ontario LoR 1Mo
Show Secretary: Troy Laroche
Show Secretary's Email:   troylaroche88@hotmail.com

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Upcoming Meets / 12/1/23, Dixie Classic, Knoxville, TN
« on: August 04, 2023, 12:41:19 PM »
Show Name:  Dixie Classic
Meet Type: Club
Show Start - End Dates: 12/1/23 – 12/3/23
Host Club:   Tennessee Valley Poultry Club
Show Facility:  Jacobs Building
Show Location: Knoxville, TN
Show Secretary: Harry House 
Show Secretary's Email:  hhouse30@hotmail.com

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Upcoming Meets / 9/15/2023, 7220 Poultry Show, Laramie, WY
« on: August 04, 2023, 12:39:27 PM »
Show Name:  7220 Poultry Show
Meet Type: Club
Show Start - End Dates:   9/15/2023 - 9/17/2023 
Host Club:   7220 Poultry Club
Show Facility:  Albany County Fairgrounds
Location: Laramie, WY
Show Secretary:   Ellie Riske
Show Secretary's Email:   7220poultry@gmail.com

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2023 National Meet / Show catalog has been released!
« on: August 01, 2023, 08:15:39 PM »
The show catalog for the 2023 ABC National Meet has been released!

https://www.poultryshowcentral.com/support-files/daytonfancyfeatherclubfallshow2023-1.pdf

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Upcoming Meets / 9/2/2023 Fayette County Fair La Grange, TX
« on: July 30, 2023, 11:55:22 AM »
Show Name: Fayette County Fair
Host Club: Fayette County Fair Association
Meet Type: Club
Show Start - End Dates:   9/2/2023
Show Facility:   Fayette County Fairgrounds
Show Location: La Grange, TX
Show Secretary:  Dan Dykes
Show Secretary's Email:    dandykes@rocketmail.com

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Breeding / Feathering on an Ameraucana
« on: July 26, 2023, 12:10:21 PM »
Someone asked about feathering on an Ameraucana. An Ameraucana should be neither soft/loose feathered nor hard/tight feathered. It is a medium/moderate bird in all respects, including feathering.

I am including a photo of a Cornish by Anthony Anthony which is representative of a bird with hard and tight feathering and a photo of a Cochin by Tom Roebuck which is representative of a bird with soft and loose feathering in case you are confused about what is meant by hard/tight feathered vs soft/loose feathered.

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Show name: Indiana State Fair 4H Poultry Show
Meet Type: Club
Show Start - End Dates: 8/17/23 - 8/19/23
Host Club: Indiana State Fair
Show Facility: Indiana State Fairgrounds
Show Address: 1202 E. 38th Street
Show City, State, Zip: Indianapolis, Indiana 46205
Show Secretary: Ron Patterson
Show Secretary’s Contact: entry@indianastatefair.com

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News and Information / Christmas in July
« on: July 17, 2023, 08:34:49 AM »
Join the ABC between 7/17 - 7/23 and receive a FREE egg color reference card!

The colors for our new egg color reference card were derived from Ameraucana eggshells and the samples are roughly 4x the size of the samples on our previous card. It is double-sided and printed on 5x7 cardstock!

Junior Membership: $10
Individual Membership: $12
Family Membership: $18

http://www.ameraucanabreedersclub.org/membership.html

The purpose of the Ameraucana Breeders Club is to encourage the continued improvement of Ameraucana bantams and large fowl through breeding, exhibition, and dissemination of relevant information. Our new members receive a handbook that is packed with useful breeding information, quarterly newsletters, forum access, are eligible to earn exhibitor points and can qualify for rosettes. Members can list their hatching eggs, chicks, and adult birds for sale in our three Breeder’s Directories!

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Breeding / White chick down
« on: July 17, 2023, 05:33:18 AM »
An Ameraucana breeder on social media asked about the variance in color on her white Ameraucana chicks. Some were more yellow in color and others had more of a gray down. I thought I would start a thread on applicable scientific research on the subject.

From my understanding the down color variations in recessive white chicks have not been adequately clarified via research yet. If anyone else out there has come across something definitive please share it.

Some research reflects that the extended black (E) allele appears to be present when the recessive white chick downs have a gray cast (Jaap, 1943; Jeffrey, 1947). A cross of White Prat x Castellana by Campo in 1997 supported the hypothesis that the extended black allele (E) is necessary for gray or smokiness down to be present in recessive white chick down. However, in that particular study fewer than expected yellow chicks with gray down were observed. The expected proportion of white birds not carrying the columbian restriction gene (3/16) fit better, suggesting that E/- co+/co+ allows gray color to appear in recessive white chick down.

Jerome and Cavers (1952) completed a conflicting study that did not support the need for E to produce gray down. 27.6% of gray down chicks were produced from a flock of White Rocks based on e+e+.

In Jeffrey’s experiments, he found that red tints in the down of recessive white chicks apparently had no relation to the gene for gold, since a strain homozygous for silver still produced chicks, 10 percent of which carried red tints in the down.

A conflicting study found that gold in recessive white birds may promote the occurrence of salmon tints in progeny. A strain of White Rocks was found to be .68 for gold and .32 for silver. In the genotype of this strain, 18 percent of the chicks carried salmon tints. By testing and selecting, this strain was brought to a point where it was known to be homozygous for silver. The progeny at this point did not show a single chick with salmon tints in the down.

A  study in 1951 pointed towards autosomal red as being a causal factor for red or salmon colored tints in recessive white chick down.

As you can see, while there is scientific research out there for what causes the variance in chick down for recessive white birds, some of it is conflicting. From the research above, we find that the following factors may affect the chick down of recessive white birds:

Extended black (E) allele
Autosomal red
S/S Silver
s+/s+ Gold 
co+/co+

Here are a few links to studies to review.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579119368932?ref=pdf_download&fr=RR-2&rr=7e817b12995cda67

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579119405646?ref=pdf_download&fr=RR-2&rr=7e8179360d542248

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S003257911951392X?ref=pdf_download&fr=RR-2&rr=7e8179f78ffb2230

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