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Breeding / Re: Breeder selling to hatchery?

« on: February 10, 2016, 06:01:17 PM »

I dont care, or see it as a big deal. Its sets a good precedent for other hatcheries to follow. Id rather have hatcheries sell "bad" true Ameraucanas than EE's labeled as Ameraucanas.

Also we cant lump all hatcheries together. Cackle has been calling their EEs correctly even before they got their Ameraucana stock, so i can respect that. They did start with a reputable breeder. What ive heard is the owner of cackle brings in quality birds to improve their stock when its needed. Besides that, what they are doing is no different than what every "BBS" novice breeder is doing now. Which is breed everything they got initially together without a plan. I see it on Facebook all the time.

Luckily they're selling blacks, I dont think you can muck up the color, only type haha. They use to sell blues and I still know breeders who have the blues that originated from them and from what I was told they were really good "typed" blues.

Only time will tell.

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News and Information / Re: Online, easy image resizing

« on: February 05, 2016, 12:20:28 PM »

After a few more tries, the 150 max file size doesn't always work. I get the best results now not reducing a percentage or file size, but by scrolling down to "fit to 800 resolution"

Interesting, It works for me every single time. Are you selecting no change in step #2?

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Breeding / Re: Breeding black to splash

« on: February 04, 2016, 02:23:25 PM »

Blues are basically a black bird with the dilution gene. So they should be Gold base as well.

I would imagine you would have to cross a blue or black to a silver to get the silver gene introduce.

I want to explain my post. For the longest time I and others thought that blues were silver base (S/S). Then someone clarified something I should have known that blue is a virtually a black bird with the blue dilution gene. So blues are most likely gold base (s+/s+)

It is said that the best blues are silver base (opinion of people) And for those who want to start a silver base blue line. You would have to breed a silver cock to a blue hen and only use the daughter since she will not inherit Gold from mom. And go from there.

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Breeding / Re: Red Coloring Poll

« on: February 04, 2016, 02:57:25 AM »

Only 4 votes? Come on folks lets hear from you 

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Breeding / Re: Breeding black to splash

« on: February 04, 2016, 02:33:26 AM »

Blues are basically a black bird with the dilution gene. So they should be Gold base as well.

I would imagine you would have to cross a blue or black to a silver to get the silver gene introduce.

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News and Information / Re: Online, easy image resizing

« on: February 03, 2016, 07:36:50 PM »

Yes the option Dan said, is the easiest option. Its under Step # 4

But under Step # 2 under the %. You have to put (NO CHANGE), if you don't. It will re-size to whatever percentage you have it at and Step # 4 will not work.

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Breeding / Re: Eye Candy

« on: February 03, 2016, 07:24:59 PM »

I am working with my first flocks of black/blue/splash Ameraucanas, and I will need the advice of the experts as I move forward. I have a black rooster over three blue hens and a splash, and a splash rooster over three blacks and a very dark blue. I will post pics here to get feedback, but by no means is it thread jacking if someone else wants to post pictures of their birds. I'm a little chatty, I love taking pictures of my birds, and I love looking at other's birds, so I'll start it off

What is your goal with your breeding?

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Temp and humidity control

« on: February 02, 2016, 12:02:55 PM »

I have the same problem with pictures Dan.  I think we need to have Susan show us how to re-size pics so we can attach them and put more eye candy on the forum.  Sounds like your hatching is coming along well.  Did you get any Splash by chance out of these hatches?  Get out and enjoy one of the upcoming shows.  Even if you don't show often, you get to see how your birds and those folks around you compare.   Good Luck!  I sent you an email.

Don

1. Right click on the image and click "properties" it shows how big the image is in (kb) 125kb is max to upload
2. Right click on the image and click "Open with" and click Paint
3. Once open on the top left you will see re-size. Click re-size and either choose to re-size the % or pixels.
(I personally re-size with pixels)
4. Choose how small you want to re-size. Then click "save"!.
5. Check image size by repeating step 1 (if still too big then repeat steps 2 and 3)
6. Once you got the kb size right then upload

-This is the way I learned how to do it without downloading special programs.
-Sometimes shrinking the photo the first time will actually make it larger (dont ask me why lol) just repeat -steps 1 through 3.

Susan if you have an easier way please let us know hahah
- I learned cutting the pixels about 60% does the trick.

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Breeding / Re: Red Coloring Poll

« on: January 25, 2016, 05:49:54 PM »

Chocolate have all been started at some point in one or the other.  I don't know if there are LF projects with Chocolate out there to go with bantams starting now?   

Don, Yes Gene is currently working on the LF. Also myself and another gentlemen in Phoenix name Reed. I crossed a 3rd generation chocolate rooster to my best black/blue pullets and got some decent females, but the males werent the best.

Reed in phoenix has one generation up on me. He crossed with John Blehms blacks and his spring 2015 hatch look good so far. (attached picture is of his chocolate Rooster)

I sold a bunch of pullets as backyard layers because I could guarantee them females due to the chocolate gene being sexlink. Everyone has sent me pictures of their eggs and Im they're getting really good egg color.

I dont have the original breeding trio anymore, I lost them to the heat. But Im currently incubating eggs from birds that I hatched last spring, just for fun.  I got them from people who have them as pets.

Being able to cross with blacks has helped them come along quick.

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Breeding / Re: Red Coloring Poll

« on: January 20, 2016, 12:32:27 AM »

Cesar,

I would not recommend using a rose comb.  The pea comb is more dominant over the single comb whereas if you breed a pea and a rosecomb they can both express and you get a cushion comb.  Much easier to remove a single comb in the line.

I was considering the red project also, but that will be down the road once the chocolates are done. You always want to use the ameraucana male in your outcross to keep as much of your egg color as possible.

Jean from my understanding the first cross will produce cushion R/P. Once bred back to Pea Comb, half the offspring should be pure for pea comb P/P, Right ?

I'm not doing the project now, I just got the bug to figure out how to get the red color. I'll prob start the same time you do.

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Breeding / Re: Red Coloring Poll

« on: January 19, 2016, 05:02:30 PM »

Cesar,   I have never seen the red orps but the picture you had looks pretty good.  I don't have a preference for the color between the three.  The project would take some time, maybe many years.  In addition to combs and egg color it would take some major breeding programs to get them to be the right type and body size.  I might guess that any of those breed crosses would create a very heavy bantam as Hybrids usually get in influx of size. 

I can't see what color is in the tail of the Orp, but I imagine that you are talking about a Black tailed Red?  And you would want to research the genetic makeup of the bloodlines you were trying to use.  For discussion, I've read where the Buff and Wheaten are based on dominate Wheaten, but the RIR is based on recessive Wheaten.  (Pure Red with no Black is based on eb)  You would need to pick up the Mahogany and Columbian and breed out the Champagne (blonde) color.  You could decide whether or not you wanted black in the hackle.  This would determine how many doses of Co you needed, right?  Buff theoretically has more than you need, but I've seen Black tailed Buff lines developed out of pure Buffs too.   

From my few years of working with buff LF, I have seen males come much darker than what you want for Buff.  Some tending toward red in a big way.  Especially when there has been a cross between Wheaten and Buff.  But I am not sure if you can get to the RIR color without an outcross.  The dark color like in the RIR would take some time for sure.  You might have more trouble getting the females dark though.  Most of the lines seem to have females lighter anyway.  But time would tell.  It might just take a lot of time and feed.

Don, I was thinking of doing LF first. I think a single cross with one of them will get that red right away and I was thinking of breeding to buff or wheaten then line breeding to keep the pea comb and egg color going. I conisdered using a Rose Comb Rhode island red to get Pea Comb again quick. And buckeyes of course have pea combs already. All I would have to worry about would be the recessive yellow skin. 

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Breeding / Red Coloring Poll

« on: January 19, 2016, 01:47:21 PM »

On another forum, a picture was posted of Bantams Red Ameruacanas. They were created by Jim Tuckwood 10 years ago and no one knows what exactly happened to them.

This got me thinking of how to create a Red Ameraucana, and what type of Red coloring would be desired to see on a possible Red Ameraucana?

The foundation is there with Buff and Wheaten, since (RC) Rhode Island Reds and  Buckeyes (Pea Comb) share the same extension gene Wheaten (eWh) and Im believing Red Orpingtons do as well. Also Red Orpington gives you the white skin needed for slate legs, but single comb. With RIR and Buckeyes you would have to worry about the recessive yellow skin gene.

Again this is just a hypothetical scenario, its something Ive been thinking about for a couple of years and recently because of the bantam pictures made me think about it again.

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Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Pelican State Classic Show in Haynesville, LA.

« on: December 06, 2015, 11:14:41 PM »

Here are the two hens that won at the Pelican State Classic today. I hope that I am attaching these pictures correctly.

Ernie

Ernie, your white is gorgeous. Where did you get your starts with the whites?

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Breeding / Re: Laced Blue Ameraucana

« on: September 02, 2015, 11:36:38 PM »

Is there any upadate about this topic. I know Cliff Redden is working on his too?

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Breeding / Re: Information on the Chocolate Variety - Q&A

« on: September 02, 2015, 11:35:36 PM »

Cesar wouldn`t this also be true with the Lavenders? If it is then you could have blacks that are pure. Blacks with Lavender splits also blacks with chocolate splits. Careless breeding would cause alot of problems if someone used them and didn`t know. Atleast i would think it would.

Yes It is true, I think Jean ran into that problem from birds she got from someone.