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The Official Forum of the Ameraucana Breeders Club => Ameraucana Marketplace => Topic started by: Guest on November 09, 2006, 03:45:11 PM
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Thanks Danny in GA for the excellent Bantam Buff Ameraucana cockerel and 3 hens..Looks like we will finally have some eggs to hatch this spring coming..
Charlie
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Another thanks to Danny of Ga...I have bought five of his bantams from him earlier and really pleased with his birds. I would not hesitate buying more from him. Correct me if I am wrong but Danny isnt a member of this club, neither am I but love these folks in here and their birds are wonderful example of the breed!
Hats off to those wonderful breeders!
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Charlie
Your post name sounds familiar...were you on BYC??? EweSheep here if you know..
Maple syrup......OMG!!!! Thats the real thing!
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Hi RobinP, yes i do still go on back yard chickens(wilds of pa)
My wife is a Mod on there(hinkjc)
Yes we got some great looking buff bantams from Danny.
Is that what you also got.
Not sure if he is a member on here or not. I think he might be..
Charlie
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I got some black reds, a blue and buff penciled bantams from him. They are all goreous birds! Cant wait to get more variations of colors. I just recently purchased \"Melonsmore\" Eggbid of a trio of white Amercuana bantams supposely of Mike Gilbert lines and I tell you they are so lovely!
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Hi Wilds...so when are you & Hinc going to post pics??? B)
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They will be coming soon. Boy our they just nice looking birds. Great size(bantam), proper leg color, only thing the roo has a few black tail feathers like maybe 3. Hen\'s are near perfect in buff color.
We have them in quarantine yet. But all seems very good to go soon.. We have a nice 8x8 coop for the 4 birds in our 24x8 coop(3 section).
Quess I\'ll have to email him and find out who\'s line they are from,
because who\'s ever they are, there doing somthing right..
Way things look we should have some eggs soon to hatch and increase our breeding stock. Should be able to hook some folks up with chicks or eggs this spring coming too..
Charlie
www.hinkjcpoultry.com
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Got a response back from Danny from GA. He said he got them from Johnny Parks whom he got it from a member of this club.
Anyone familiar with this fellow, Mr Parks????
Thanks!
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Hi,
I am Johnny, Danny\'s cousin. The stock of the buff ameraucana bantams originally came from John Blemh, Michigan. I no longer have many ameraucana birds. I had to sale most of my stock because I am going to college, age forty-three, attempting a career change. I don\'t have much time for the birds anymore. I hope to re-stock later from fellow ABC members. Danny has some of my original birds.
I hope this is the information you are interested in knowing about these birds. Of course, the birds that Danny has are pure Ameraucanas. The thing is, he has several color varieties running together. I don\'t know how true to color your buffs would be if these birds are some he raised. It may be possible they are mixed with other ameraucana color varieties. If they are the older birds that I had originally, then they are \"true\" buffs.
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Thanks for the info
Im glad i know where they came from. I dont beleave these are mixed with any other color as they look true to the buff color. We shall see when we hatch some eggs.
These are just some awsome looking birds :p
charlie
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/hinkjc/Bantam%20Buff%20Ameraucana/100_1966.jpg)
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Great looking birds! Sometimes there will be a bird or two, which will have an occasional feather or two of stray coloring, usually black. The thing to do is to select these birds out from your breeding flock. Select true buff\'s for your breeding program. Anyway, good luck with them. They look \"true\". Nice talking with you. Hope the information helped. Johnny
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Well, Johnny, great meeting ya! And thank you for responding back!
Well, regardless of what the birds colors I got in my flock, I am very pleased with the girls and thanks to you to contribute to this breed as well as Danny.
They are more true to type than the ordinary breed that I get from the hatchery such as Marti\'s and Ideal and McMurray....they look NOTHING like these girls! They seem to have more refinements, more deeper in color and as Mike informed me about the color of legs. Only one has a dark willow legs which a friend informed me that her judges told her any slate, black legs are disqualified or a fault which it is not. Unfortunately she got rid of those birds after the judges told her to keep looking for willow legs, nothing else. I am glad I got from Danny and did not sell any of the girls that I got from him even the one that had willow legs. She is a lovely girl and enjoy her as Mike said.
Again, look at Backyardchickens.com and see your birds on the forum again under the Buff Amercuanas. Feel free to make your \"stamp\" under that line and anyone else is welcome too! I am hoping Danny will be here if he can figure out how to get on the forum.
I will be looking forward in seeing and buying more birds from Danny. I know he mix and pair his birds but neverthanless, I am not breeding for certain colors but wanted to keep the type and size and disposition of these wonderful girls.
I would love to email you pics of my girls....along with those three white Amercuanas I bought from someone else.
Keep in touch!
Robin
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I got an email from Danny and he does read this forum. He said that the buffs were pure...no other colors mixed with them.
Dang, Danny, give me some of them LOL!!!!! The color looks more like Buff Orp color than the wishy washy color of buffs.
Good job, Danny!
Johnny, all the flock you got from..were they from Mike Blehm or did you get different colors from different breeders???
The willow legged buff pencilled pullet was a cross of the Buff and Blue Wheaton. I think Mike Gilbert has the photo I sent to him and if he can post it on here since my computer is wracky about sending pics on this forum. She is just a lovely bird!!!!
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Wow, what nice buffs.
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Thank you to all,
When i purchased the birds, We spoke with Danny on the phone for a while and he told us they where of pure stock, so with that said we new where we were headed with these birds..
Yes the black can be cleaned up. We\'ve been breeding buff orps for a long while and as with them, they to can have color troubles. but in the past 3 years we\'ve managed to rid ourself of off colors in our orps.
I want to thank those who have made this breed
(buff ameraucana) what it is today, you know who you are.., they sure hit the nail on the head when they used buff orp blood, because we beleave the buff orps are one of the best chickens to own/breed.
We will strive in working with the Bantam buff ameraucana. We cant wait to get started with them.. :p
We are also working on Buff Silkies and Are going to be working on a Buff bantam Araucana to..
The Araucana will be a few years of pain, but it will be fun. And as for time, we have plenty of it..
Thanks
Charlie
P.s.
Harry, Thanks for stopping by yesterday. It was a pleasure to have you here again..
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Guess what all.....WE GOT 2 EGGS FROM THE GIRLS TODAY, you know what that means..Looks like we are going to collect for a set already..
Charlie
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Buff bantam Araucana
They are already recognized. A fellow bought some buff bantam Ameraucanas from me several years ago to develop a strain of buff bantam Araucanas from. I think he was from Indiana.
FYI, buff Orpington, buff Wyandotte and buff Brahma were used to get the buff color on bantam Ameraucanas.
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Hi John, i know they are recognized already, but try to find some.
Ive been looking for over a year and knowbody seems to have any. If you look on feather site there isnt even a picture of them on there. Ive never seen a picture yet.
Now i know on the araucana site, somebody said they had some stolen at a show
That is sad to hear
I just wish I could have seen them or even a picture of them..
We will have some Buff bantam araucana some day here, I have a few friends that are going to join forces with us to develop our own strain..
I have all the right things to do this.
John Your work and the others in the Buff Ameraucana is awsome..It can be seen in the birds..
Charlie
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Some of the Favorelle breeders are using the Buff Orps, both standards and bantam sizes for getting the buff Favorelles...so it looks like the buff of other breeds are being used for that purpose to get the color we want to get. I would imagine it would take several generations to get the correct pea comb since the Buff Orps are single combs and get the correct color as well.
Would it be pink or slate legs for these birds?? Buff Orps got pink legs....
Yes I agree with you Charlie, that these dedicated breeders out there are breeding quality birds including your buffs.
I hope you will save those eggs and hatch them out so you can get a good flock going. Hope the lady will help you out with new flock next year. Then you wil have a nice flock to start off with and not have to worry about bloodlines being too close. I know some breeders will use father-daughter mating....from that mating, breed that offspring back to father and keep that up until you get the desired color and other things you want out of them. However I would like to know where the limit is when you keep breeding father to daughter and father to granddaughter until you need to cross with unrelated father.....It is something I am not expencied in except for collies and horses which sometimes are very desirable and some you wil have to be ready to cull heavy or eliminate that cross if it was pretty bad. Like some breeders do...linebreed every branch in that male line to one particular sire so that they all have a common ancestor....Arabians are good that area like having 95% Raffles in their ancestory...whew!
Has anyone do pedigree on their birds? I know hens are less documented but some folks would say this is by this rooster\'s (name) and this is a granddaughter of this roo (name). I have never heard of pedigreed stock.......funny if Mike would get started on the stud book of Amercuanas LOL! I know it will be more time consuming and lots of tests to be done on chick offsprings like ID and sample of feathers or blood for validity of parentage. Be nice to know which hen go with chick offspring unless you only do a pair at a time or a noticable difference in color of eggs frm each hen. I am not sure if the OEBG breeders do this pedigree stuff since there are alot of names on their birds...hopefully I am not mistaken them for cock fighting birds.
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Glad that you all like the buff ameraucanas! Just one note of concern from reading the earlier posts. You do not want to breed for willow green legs!!! NO, NO, NO!!! The slate (blue) legs are characteristic for the buff ameraucana and most of the other color varities of ameraucana, with the exception of the black variety. It is okay for the black variety to have the black legs. Although, I think like most of the original breeders of ameraucanas, we prefer that all of the color varieties have the blue/slate shanks(legs)! Johnny
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Yes I am aware of that, Johnny, about willow legs which Mike Gilbert has informed me of it and enjoy her as an egg laying hen or cross of EE bantams. At least I know where I am at for leg colors because the local and district judges all think all amercuanas should have willow legs....looks like we got a lot of work ahead of us to inform the public and newbies that willow legs in most colors are not acceptable unless you are breeding EE bantams. If I come to a show with the guideline book of this breed, I have a feeling that I probably would be banned from local shows like 4H, FFA and local poultry shows.
My friend always said willow legs are desirable but found out NO, it is not acceptable in this breed. So it may be a start from scratch for her.
Okay not much going on here except waiting for those chicks to hatch. I am hoping to get some wild colored birds.
Thanks Johnny for your input!
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Get a standard and provide the pages ahead of time to the judges, or buy/loan a standard for the club to have as a reference.
Michael
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Get a standard
You can buy a black and white \"Standard\" from the APA for $14. Every poultry fancier needs one.
http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/APA_ShoppingMall3.htm
American Poultry Association “STANDARD OF PERFECTION”
This soft covered book is the Black and White version of the American Standard, 275 pages. Pictures are in black and white and it details the same as the color version of the Standard. This is a great book for the new exhibitor and breeder.
Price: $14.00
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The standard is a good buy. I did not have to pay shipping.
Tim
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Some times ebay got some good buy\'s if you watch and wait..
standard books..
Charlie
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Up date all:
Got over 13 eggs in the bator another 3 days and we will see if the little roo was doing his thing.. ;)
I will have another 12 or so eggs to test if these fail..
these birds havent stopped laying, even though they are only getting natural lighting, no extra light is given on our farm..
They seem to be a very good egg laying breed. Not sure of what others are doing..
Charlie
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Charlie,
After being able to see your Buff Ameraucanas Bantams up close and in the flesh, please consider me when you have some chicks or started stock available. I really liked the way they looked. Please post when you have some available. They were just stunning. HarryS
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Harry, thanks for such kind words about
our Bantam Buff Ameraucana.
I will put you on the waiting list and you will be one of the first to get what ever you want..
Still testing eggs, everthing is looking just great at this time..
I will contact you soon..
Feel free to email Us anytime, if you have any question about our birds..
Thanks
Charlie ;)