Ameraucana Breeders Club
The Official Forum of the Ameraucana Breeders Club => Breeding => Topic started by: Mike Gilbert on November 10, 2014, 01:42:32 PM
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I was happy to see Clif showing the brown reds he got from Jim Fegan at Lucasville. How did they look?
Some of us old timers don't believe in showing purchased birds, but I have no problem with others doing that if it helps the breed.
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Mike, I think the Brown reds Mr Fegan brought me are very nice birds. Jim brought me 5 total 3 pullets and 2 cockerels . I usually don't show birds I buy either, however I'm pretty excited about the brown red variety and want people here in our district to get a close up look at just how beautiful they are. Their feathers were still coming in at Arkansas but they look like they will be In good by Dec 13, I will be taking them to Shawnee OK. Mike there was several people that had questions about them. There were people who wanted to buy some and people that said they had never seen brown red Ameraucana's
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I'm the most pleased with my own stock than I have been in years. After crossing in a part-bantam to improve color years ago, size really took a hit. And then the males are often about three shades of red: dark in the shoulders, lighter in the hackles and saddles, and yellowish at the tips of the hackles. This year I am raising a cockerel that is one even shade throughout - now if I can just keep him alive until breeding season. I also still have his mother or her full sister, so we'll see what happens in 2015.
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Mike, I was glad to see Clif show the purchased Brown Reds from Jim Fegan. They are an excellent start for Clif. If anyone here in the South Central District can make them work it will be Clif as he has had experience with the variety in another breed. I tried some from Michael M. several years ago that didn't "pan-out"-got rid of them.
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Thanks Paul. It takes a lot of patience with the Brown Reds, as they only produce about 50% with the coloring you are looking for. Kind of like breeding blue to blue.
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Mike, this is one of the cockerels I bought from Jim in Lucasville.
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Looks pretty good Clif. How is the lacing on the chest? His red coloring is more even than most of mine.
Would like to see that tail a little higher, but I realize it is only a photo.
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The lacing on his chest is ok but not great. He is holding his tail a little lower than he normally does, but he does carry it a bit low. The other cockerel I bought has better color and his tail set is higher however this cockerel weighs a little over 6 pounds the other weighs 4.5 . I bought 3 brown red pullets from Jim at the same time, one of them has an abundance of lacing, not only on her chest but also on her shoulders (I was glad to get her as a brood hen). I spoke with Jim about how she could be a benefit. Jim felt she could possibly improve the lacing on the cockerels chest and bring more color to the back and shoulders of the cockerels. I believe he's right and I would love to know what you think about it.
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The overcolored pullets like the one you purchased are fairly common. You could use her in a compensation mating with a male that needs more color. I sold Jim one like that a few years ago, and I believe he said he got some good birds out of her.
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Thanks!
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Here are a few pictures of a Brown Red cock that i hatched in March from purchased eggs. He has nice even color with one shade of Brown. He wouldn`t stand up in my picture studio so i just put him back in his pen.
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Nice picture DeWayne, He looks like he is a good sized bird too. This is a beautiful variety. Do you have some nice pullets for hatching next year? Its really great that this variety is finally getting spread around a little more. Now we just need to see some bantams at the shows so folks can see how nice they are.
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This is one of the two colors I wanted when I first started searching for Ameraucanas - either wheaten or brown red. Couldn't find brown red, so ended up with wheaten.
I love my wheatens, but would be tempted by some nice brown reds.
Should I bring some empty carriers to the Nationals? lol
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I have 16 pullets that i kept this year. I will try to get some pictures on here soon. If anyone is going to be close to PA this year, and will be going by Cliffs or to a show that Cliff will be at let me know please. If my egg color is good from these pullets, i will start selling eggs or whatever i can manage to get to people to get them going with. Thanks
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Here are a few pictures of some of my pullets. I have 16 pullets and 5 hens. I also have a few cocks and pullets from a different line. I will be using 2 differnt lines but i will keep them well marked incase one line does not turn out like i hope. I have 2 pullets that are a little overloaded in color but i am keeping them for the future just incase. Susan if they start laying soon and egg color is good, you may want to build another pen. ;)
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I had some trouble getting these pictures to post but here are three more.
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Great numbers of females to males for winter hatches. I hope you can send some eggs down to this part of the country. It would be great to have some of these in numbers at the our shows. We would have all kinds of folks wanting to raise AMs. Nice birds! and thanks for the pictures.
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Oh no!!!! I am liking this line of birds. ::) Looking good
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Here are a few pictures of some of my pullets. I have 16 pullets and 5 hens. I also have a few cocks and pullets from a different line. I will be using 2 differnt lines but i will keep them well marked incase one line does not turn out like i hope. I have 2 pullets that are a little overloaded in color but i am keeping them for the future just incase. Susan if they start laying soon and egg color is good, you may want to build another pen. ;)
I would really love some brown reds from you, Dwayne!! Let me know how they do
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Don would you be interested in getting some? Susan i will let you know as soon as i get them laying and see what happens. Mindy should i keep you in mind to? :)
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DeWayne, I would love some. I have seen this variety only once, at the National last fall. However, my wife does not need any more reasons to divorce me. So I must use what little bit of better judgement I have left. But having some in the area at Susan's and hopefully some others would be really nice. I could at least visit them once in a while or at least see them at shows. I do know one other gentleman just north of us that has been trying to get a start of this variety for many years, and no one had eggs or stock available. So its really nice that they are beginning to be more spread around. Its the goal of all of us to see this breed in all its varieties to be more available. If you have more eggs than you need in the spring, I will ask him to contact you. But really, thanks for the offer. I really do think they are very beautiful. And sounds like they have a lot going for them.
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DeWayne, yes please do they are lovely! I dont have a pen plan and may need to wait till spring to start hatching. I am not that far from you. Please keep me posted.
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Mindy were are you located? If we are close enough, i could get you young birds to breed. Don you can ask that guy and i will see what i can do for him. Because of my work schedule, i am not in the directory. I rarely get a chance to ship anything. I have only shipped to a total of 6 people this year and 5 of them got eggs. I had to get help mailing the eggs but i packed them and printed the labels to make it easy for my helpers.
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DeWayne, I am in Leetonia, Ohio 20 minutes from the state line. I have a beautiful chicken problem currently and need to be sure I can commit to a different line. The opportunity may not come my way again. My May hatch of LF BBS and LF Blacks created some great birds and my pens are full, including six (out of 10) very nicely growing cockrels. I am needing to grow them out.
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Mindy, what a nice problem to have! National entry material? Grow birds grow!
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I have several I am pretty excited about. :) I am trying to be on my best behavior and selecting my words carefully regarding making a 15 hour drive with a few birds in our car. Hahaha