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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Poultry Tractors
« on: February 05, 2016, 04:39:36 PM »
 :)

Gordon, I actually use heated waterers. Last year, I tried the heated base, but that was a bust. I ended up getting a plastic heated waterer, and I am very happy with it. I got three more this year, but a different brand, and I like them better. I already have an outdoor extension cord ran out there for the Christmas lights, so we have splitters off of that for their waterers. This is the one I got this year and like....
http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/farm-innovators-heated-poultry-fount-3-gal?cm_vc=-10005

The only time it has frozen so far is when it got so low, there was only a small amount of water left in it. Of course, the lowest we have gotten so far this year is the single digits. We haven't really gotten subzero yet. The one last year stayed thawed in sub zero, though.

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Poultry Tractors
« on: February 05, 2016, 09:54:37 AM »
Thanks, Don and Gordon! I do let my chickens free range as much as I can, but there are times when hawks come around, so this system saves them. Plus, when I start the breeding and hatching, this method keeps them in the breeding groups I want while still keeping them on good pasture and happy. Last year, I let them eat down and till up each area completely and when I moved the pen, I planted a chicken forage blend. I will do that again this year with all of them. As long as I am diligent with moving them before it is all tilled up, the "pasture" grows back nicely.

One thing we are going to be looking at this year is the summer heat. Of course, it doesn't get real hot here, but this coop is better suited for the cold. I would like to add a couple windows covered with hardware cloth, but have a flip down door over it for cooler days. The ventilation we have now seems to do well for the moisture control, but not as much for cooling off in the warmer days. So that is something we are looking at improving on.

I do like the sand much better than the pine chips. I use sand in my brooders, too. Stays much drier, easier to clean, and the chicks get their first taste of natural grit. I have learned, though, that the chickens dust bathe inside the coop a lot with the sand! That is fine, but the Ameraucondo girls are doing it right by the nesting boxes, which makes for a very messy nesting box! What is good about that, though, is I put DE in the coop sand now, since they are dust bathing in it, they are making it easy for me to keep them mite and lice free. The cleaning of the coops is easier with the sand, too. Just need a kitty litter scoop. I get play sand from Lowes or the hardware store. Some people prefer the construction style sand, but I like the finer grain...makes it easier to scoop the poop out. The sand also is a great insulator for keeping them warm.

The way I designed the roosts in that U shape and a flat board....the flat board makes it to where they sit on their feet, keeping them warm. We were going to see how they did this year in the sub zero temps, but we haven't had that frigid cold yet! But if they still struggled in that intense cold, we were going to put some heat tape on the roosts, like the kind you put around pipes...doesn't get too hot for their feet, and gives just a touch of warmth on their bums to take the chill off, without the risk of fire. We haven't done it yet, because we don't know if they will need it, and we haven't had it cold enough here to test the warmth in the coop yet. The U-shape keeps their body heat centralized, too.

As for capacity....the coop measures 4X8, but about 1 foot in the front is the platform and ramp down, so the interior is about 4X7. Right now, the most I have in one coop is 11, and they all roost on one side and about half of the back. So theoretically, I could easily put at least 5+ more birds in there without crowding them. Now, in the summer, I am not sure I want much more than that in there unless I get the windows in to let air circulate more to keep them cooled off. That's a lot of body heat! But the 11 roost lined up, and still have room to stretch sporadically. I actually sat and watched them one night just to see how they fared in the space capacity. These are full grown New Hampshires, Delawares, and Barred Rocks, so large sized chickens. Not as big as Jersey Giants or Brahmas, but bigger than Ameraucanas. The pen is 10X10 with two roosting bars running the length of the sides. Plus the ground under the coop gives approximately 130 square foot of ground. Only 100 square foot gets rotated unless I move the coop, too. It takes my 11 about 3-4 days or so to clear out the grass in that area. And especially when I have the tunnel in use, they run around back and forth a lot playing and having fun. It is so cute watching them go through that tunnel! It is like a game to them. And they all line up on the bars a couple times a day and rest. In the spring and summer, I dont' have the top tarped, just poultry netted. They bask in the sunshine, and the run under the coop gives them breezy shade. and protection when it rains.


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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Poultry Tractors
« on: February 04, 2016, 09:55:25 PM »
Ok, I think I figured out the picture thing. :)

The white coop, the "Ameraucondo", is our first set up. The next two had little improvements, such as the different type doors on the run (under the coop), the front door on the coop, the different roof, and the pen (not pictured) has a better door that opens in instead of out. I do like the metal roof better. Because of the shape, it gives more ventilation. Plus, it is much lighter weight.

We did not put the peel and stick tiles on the inside of the third coop. They don't hold up well. I use sand on the interior for moisture control and more heat retention up here in Northeast PA. The nesting box is blocked off in this pic, but is opened up when they get close to laying.

The Ameraucasa houses my Paul Smith babies from Texas, and the Ameraucondo holds my babies from the Bayou (LA Mike) as well as my Wyandottes and sex links. 

Right now, for winter air, I have a type of black tarp covering all of the sides of both the pens and coops except for the southern sides, as well as over the top of the pens. This helps protect them from the wind and snow. Of course, right now we have NO SNOW! Since we normally do have a foot or more by now, I didn't intend to move the pens until the Spring thaw. I don't think I have a picture of them now covered. But when we did get pretty cold and windy, when I was tending to their food and water, as soon as I stepped inside their pens, it was immediately noticeable that they were warmer in there! So I am pleased with that.

What do you think?

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Poultry Tractors
« on: February 04, 2016, 09:56:10 AM »
Yes, Gordon! Mine need motors for sure!

We built three coops and pens this past year, and I really like the concept of our design. We still have to make a few tweaks to the system, though.

The coops was initially going to be mobile, but the real mobility lies in the pens. They are 10X10. One side of the pen has the hatch-type door. The coops have a "run" underneath the floor enclosed by hardware cloth. On each of the four sides, there is a hatch door. The pen lines up to each door. We also have two 5 ft tunnels for each unit. Once I have moved the pen around to each side, we attach the tunnels giving them access to new ground. If I move the pens every three days or so, it is nearly a month before the pen comes back to the first location. Since I feed my chickens a whole grain feed mix, whatever had spilled has normally sprouted up, and the grass has regrown back before they come back.

This system makes moving the coop less necessary, since they get the fresh ground. The pens are light enough for me to move by myself. The trick is just getting out there to move it while they are locked in their coop, so generally after they have gone to bed.

The tweaks we are working on include ease of lining up the doors, keeping the pens lightweight, yet sturdy, yet able to handle the frequent, bumpy moving, and designing a better handle for lifting the end and steering it easier.

I do love our system, though! Some pics are on my facebook page. I can't figure out how to shrink my photos to post them here.

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Thanks to Cesar for teaching me how to re-size pictures. (hopefully he is not sorry later)
 
This is a picture of one of Jerry's bantam Splash Wheaten males at Nationals.   Please don't fault him for so much for type. He was not happy being placed in a strange place with several folks aggravating him.  Several folks bought SW from Jerry at the nationals, so hopefully there will be others shown in the near future.

Oh my goodness! Oh my goodness!!! He is gorgeous!!! I can't wait to see my baby boy, Don! Do you have an updated pic of your two?

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As the ABC moves forward with the effort to gain APA recognition of the beautiful self-blue Ameraucana, we are beginning the leg work to follow suit with splash wheatens! I do hope someone does the same for splash, but I only have the set up to work with the SW. As Susan and the Board works on the Self-blue, she is guiding me on all we as breeders need to be doing to get other varieties on the APA desk. We are including bantams in the leg work to further that effort at the same time, but I do not know the differences in the process for the ABA.

First, I am still gathering the breeders who either are already breeding SW, are set up to (have BW), or are interested in starting from scratch with this wonderful variety. I have a Facebook group started to coordinate and communicate more easily, but I also have an email group for those not on facebook.

As several have stated in other threads, the first step is to get the minimum number of SW shown in at least one show each year. This number needs to include at least 4 of each; Cock, cockerel, hen and pullet.

So far, we have breeders in most of the districts joining this project, so hopefully by the Fall 2016, more than one district meet will have this number entered!

By the time the club is ready to petition the APA to consider acceptance, we will need to have at least 5 splash wheaten breeders who have been members of the APA for a minimum of 5 years to sign affidavits stating that. PLEASE DO NOT LET THAT DETER YOU FROM JOINING THIS EFFORT if you are not an APA member or have not been for very long. More than anything, we need to promote this variety and enter as many quality birds in as many meets as we can. The more we show nice birds, the more attention they will get. If you are not a member of the APA, please consider joining, not just for this purpose, but for all the benefits of membership you will gain. Here is the link to join:

http://amerpoultryassn.com/joint.htm

Please either email me (sarahmeaders@live.com) or Facebook me (https://www.facebook.com/sarah.meaders.7) if you are interested in joining this project. I am hoping to have a proposed standard very soon, but until then, let's get organized! :)


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News and Information / Re: ABC Seeks Approval for Self Blue from APA!
« on: January 11, 2016, 02:30:34 PM »
Temple DaSilva, are you interested in helping with Bantam Self-blue, Splash Wheaten or Splash? :)

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Breeding / Re: Splash wheaten variety APA recognition
« on: September 26, 2015, 08:22:46 PM »
Don, I would LOVE to see those! Can you post them? I really would like to see a group commit to this project. There is no way I can head this, as I am so very inexperienced, but I am a good documenter and I will join the APA just for this if no other reason, and I will work real hard at learning fast!

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Breeding / Splash wheaten variety APA recognition
« on: September 20, 2015, 07:03:31 AM »
I am very interested in getting splash wheaten a recognized variety by the APA. I hope to see splash and lavender recognized soon, too, but I can't get involved in either of those, YET.

I hope to have splash wheatens hatching this spring. I will join the APA right before the hatching season. I know of at least three other breeders who already have splash wheatens, and I am certain there are many more.

I guess I am asking for a group to be started and organized to get this process started. I have attached the section in the APA by laws about variety additions if anyone is interested in doing this. There has to be at least five breeders, five years of the variety, and during those five years, all five breeders have to be members of the APA. There also are showing requirements that are already being met by multiple breeders.

I am definitely going to be breeding splash wheatens regardless. I think they are beautiful and deserve recognition. Can we get an organized group going? It would be awesome if splash and lavender did the same at the same time, but as I said, I am nowhere near ready for any more varieties than I already have. :(

Let's do this!

Section 2: Admission of Breed and Varieties 

a. A petition for recognition of any breed or variety of any domestic or foreign breed must be sent to the Secretary, at least one year prior to the first qualifying meet, giving the history of its origin, breeding background, and with facts of an educational nature, all of which shall be preserved in the records of the Association. Included shall be the proposed name of the breed or variety with a standard for shape, color and weight, written in the same style and format as the Standard and included with the petition, with copyright assigned to the American Poultry Association, Inc. The proposed breed must manifest at least three (3) differences from existing standard breeds, this to be determined by the Standard Committee. If a breed or variety  had been  accepted by the American Bantam Association before January 2007, a qualifying meet will not be required if the Standard Committee is satisfied through show reports from the US and Canadian shows, that 200 or more birds have been shown by at least three (3) exhibitors in the last three (3) years. If the description is in conflict with the description which was approved at a proper qualifying meet of the ABA, then the applicant must either adjust the application so that the conflicts are removed or work with the Standard Committee of the ABA to remove the conflict. 

b. Affidavits shall be included from not less than five (5)  breeders, of 18 years of age or older, stating that they have bred the breed or variety for not less than five years and that it produces not less than 50% of all specimens reasonably true to type, color, size and comb. One of the five breeders will act as the spokesperson for the group and all correspondence will be between him or her and the Standard Committee. All five (5) breeders must be members of the Association before submitting the affidavit and must be members for a minimum of five (5) years before the first qualifying meet can take place.

c. Certificates showing four (4) or more specimens have been exhibited in each class of cocks, hens, cockerels and pullets in each of the preceding two years at a show officiated by a licensed A.P.A. judge. The Standard Committee shall contact the judge for his or her confidential opinion of the quality and uniformity.
 
d. A deposit of a sum sufficient to defray the actual cost of placing the text in the Standard shall be received with the petition, which amount shall be returned in full in case of rejection. 

e. The petition will then be referred to the Committee on Standards who shall name the two (2) qualifying meets, the first at a regional show and the second at the Annual Convention. The meets are to be at least one (1) year apart and are to be judged by licensed A.P. A. judges that will be approved by the Standard Committee.  Such qualifying meets shall consist of not less than twenty-five (25) specimens for a new variety and fifty (50) specimens for a new breed exhibited by at least five(5)  exhibitors in all classes of cock, hen, cockerel and pullet. All exhibitors participating in the qualifying meet must be members of the Association at the time of the judging.

f. When satisfied of the breed or variety, the committee may recommend its acceptance, subject to final approval by the Board of Directors, upon which it becomes a recognized breed or variety. 

g. No petition for subdivision of any standard variety shall be entertained by the Committee on Standards except Turkeys. 

h. The Association recommends that the applicant for a new breed or variety of bantam apply for a joint meet for recognition with the American Bantam Association.

I. If the breed or variety fails to meet the qualifying meet standards another qualifying meet will not be scheduled for a minimum of six (6) months. An additional fee will be required to offset the costs of the added meet.

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Humidity control by weights
« on: May 04, 2015, 05:13:15 PM »
Just ordered it! I guess I need to set another batch!

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Humidity control by weights
« on: May 03, 2015, 07:55:50 PM »
Hatch is over. Disappointed....55%. All that pipped hatched healthy chicks. But not the rate I was hoping for. A friend hatched my hens eggs and got a very successful hatch, so must still be incubation issues.

I weighed and candles only twice the entire time. The average weights were on target. Not sure what else I can do short of getting an expensive incubator which I can't do right now. :(

Thank you all for your input!

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Humidity control by weights
« on: April 29, 2015, 09:29:58 AM »
I definitely will!!!

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Over 2 decades of experience
« on: April 28, 2015, 02:49:20 PM »
Love this post! Keep them coming!

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Re: Humidity control by weights
« on: April 28, 2015, 02:42:50 PM »
I haven't weighed or candled since I posted this question! Combination of taking advice and zero free time! I check the temp and humidity everyday, but I can only trust this machine is accurate. Tomorrow the eggs go on lockdown, so I will weigh and candle then, just to see. Hopefully the hatch goes well!

Thank you all for the responses! Praying for a good hatch!

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Housing, Health & Hatching / Humidity control by weights
« on: April 18, 2015, 09:28:03 PM »
I am practicing with incubating my australorps in preparation for my future Ameraucana breeding. Is there anyone who maintains their humidity by weight, or has ever? I have read a few different "expert" figures, and I would like to hear experienced advice. Specifically, I have read that over the full 21 days, the eggs need to lose a total of 13% of their weight. The questions I have are how this is achieved, especially since day 18 is supposed to have increased humidity, limiting the weight loss for those final three days. So I have also read that the 13% needs to be lost by day 18, affecting the calculations. And finally, I have read several who stay with 12% over 18 days.

I may be splitting hairs here, but this is only my second batch in the incubator, and I am certain humidity and temperature control were issues in the first round. I would love to hear some veteran hatchers' thoughts and experience.

Thanks in advance!

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