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Title: Chicks
Post by: Beth C on February 17, 2011, 10:28:10 AM
I have a rather colorful incubator at the moment: 1 wheaten, 1 buff, 1 black, 1 lavender, & 1 lavender split. 10 eggs to go - knock on wood, maybe this season will be better than last!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/bncarey/chickens/fd68ee32.jpg)
Title: Chicks
Post by: Birch Run Farm on February 17, 2011, 10:51:25 AM
Awesome!
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Post by: Jess on February 17, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
I love it.
Way to go.
Jess
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Post by: Mike Gilbert on February 18, 2011, 07:29:44 AM
Nice chicks and photo, but opening the lid to the incubator while eggs are hatching is allowing the warm air and humidity to escape and may affect the hatchability of the remaining eggs.
Title: Chicks
Post by: Beth C on February 18, 2011, 09:55:48 AM
I know, it was a dumb move. That \"it\'ll only be a second\" mentality but seeing that second frozen in time in a picture is telling - I won\'t be doing that again!

All total I ended up with 5 wheaten, 4 black, 2 buff, 2 split* & 1 lavender. I should have another batch over the weekend.

*I want to make sure I have this right: black X lavender = 100% splits, right? split X split = 25% black/50% split/25% lavender? split X lavender = 50% split/50%lavender?
Title: Chicks
Post by: Mike Gilbert on February 18, 2011, 10:50:51 AM
Your percentages are accurate.   Can you see any visual differences between the blacks and splits at any stage of development?
Title: Chicks
Post by: Beth C on February 18, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
I\'ve been told there is no accurate way to tell them apart so any black chicks from a split X split breeding should be treated as if they *could* carry lavender (and should not be bred to black), is that correct? These are the result of lavender X black, so should all be splits. If I breed them only to lavender, then I should know all black chicks produced carry lavender, right? This seems easier, but is there any benefit in split X split over split X lavender?
Title: Chicks
Post by: Mike Gilbert on February 18, 2011, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: Beth C
I\'ve been told there is no accurate way to tell them apart so any black chicks from a split X split breeding should be treated as if they *could* carry lavender (and should not be bred to black), is that correct? These are the result of lavender X black, so should all be splits. If I breed them only to lavender, then I should know all black chicks produced carry lavender, right? This seems easier, but is there any benefit in split X split over split X lavender?


Right on all counts.   There would be no benefit colorwise from breeding split over split in lieu of split over lavender, but I would base my selections for breeding  more on type, size, temperament, and a whole host of other factors moreso than color in that case.
Title: Chicks
Post by: Beth C on February 18, 2011, 12:37:08 PM
Thanks! Be forewarned, when the time comes to make those selections, I\'m going to probably post enough questions/pictures to drive you all nuts... ;)
Title: Chicks
Post by: greeneggsandham on February 18, 2011, 08:59:35 PM
Quote from: Beth C
I know, it was a dumb move. That \"it\'ll only be a second\" mentality but seeing that second frozen in time in a picture is telling - I won\'t be doing that again!

All total I ended up with 5 wheaten, 4 black, 2 buff, 2 split* & 1 lavender. I should have another batch over the weekend.

*I want to make sure I have this right: black X lavender = 100% splits, right? split X split = 25% black/50% split/25% lavender? split X lavender = 50% split/50%lavender?


So if you have 4 blacks and 2 splits which I\'m assuming are also black, you have no way to tell them apart until you breed them?
Title: Chicks
Post by: Beth C on February 19, 2011, 08:17:06 AM
The 4 blacks are from my black pen, and I kept the lavender eggs in a separate basket in the incubator and toe punched them, so I know which ones the splits are. The first split was trying to escape the basket so I took him out & toe punched him. (I took the picture when I popped him back in with the others.) This time I have the basket secured better so I won\'t have to open the lid.
Title: Chicks
Post by: John on February 19, 2011, 09:43:55 AM
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I kept the lavender eggs in a separate basket in the incubator and toe punched them,

Sounds like you\'ve got it all figured out.   :D
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Post by: greeneggsandham on February 19, 2011, 06:31:00 PM
Quote from: Beth C
The 4 blacks are from my black pen, and I kept the lavender eggs in a separate basket in the incubator and toe punched them, so I know which ones the splits are. The first split was trying to escape the basket so I took him out & toe punched him. (I took the picture when I popped him back in with the others.) This time I have the basket secured better so I won\'t have to open the lid.


I see.  I use wire cloth dividers in my incubator.  I\'m trying to imagine what this basket looks like though.
Title: Chicks
Post by: Beth C on February 19, 2011, 10:17:06 PM
Quote from: John
Sounds like you\'ve got it all figured out.   :D

Don\'t I wish! ;-)

Quote from: greeneggs&ham
I\'m trying to imagine what this basket looks like though.


CrystalCreek mentioned using suet baskets, so I gave them a try. They worked well, but I didn\'t have it latched the first time.
Title: Chicks
Post by: Guest on February 20, 2011, 02:12:44 AM
are lavender splits soild black? i know in silkies there black with silver hackles
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Post by: Cloverleaf Farm on February 20, 2011, 02:21:10 AM
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are lavender splits soild black? i know in silkies there black with silver hackles


the couple that I have hatched that are feathered out are solid black.
Title: Chicks
Post by: faith valley on February 20, 2011, 10:00:11 AM
I never thought about using a suet basket- what wonderful idea.  I have my hatcher tray divided into rows to separate eggs, but it would be nice to use the basket when I have just two or so eggs that need to be divided off.  Cool idea~ thanks

Patty
Title: Chicks
Post by: Beth C on February 20, 2011, 10:50:56 AM
Crystal posted this on another site and I thought it was such a cool idea I had to try it! I\'ve picked up several neat tricks from her.  :D
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Post by: Cloverleaf Farm on February 20, 2011, 12:22:58 PM
I got one of the big treat baskets for when I need to seperate things.  Looks just like a suet basket, but it\'s about 3-4 times the size. :)
Title: Chicks
Post by: crystalcreek on February 21, 2011, 09:32:03 PM
I\'ll post a picture; I have to downsize it first.  Three fit nicely in a Genesis 1588 with room all around for a total of four divisions.  I bought mine in the Garden dept at Lowe\'s but they are available just about anywhere.  I was concerned a chick would hang itself, but have not had any problems so far.
Title: Chicks
Post by: crystalcreek on February 21, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
Here\'s a pic
Title: Chicks
Post by: crystalcreek on February 21, 2011, 09:38:02 PM
I can fit 9 of Paul Smith\'s pullet\'s eggs in one or 11 or so normal sized ameraucana eggs.
Title: Chicks
Post by: crystalcreek on February 21, 2011, 09:57:23 PM
And sorry my humidity device is so \"in your face\"; it is what it is.  :)  I use air hose tubing and can add water through the vent hole without even opening the lid...very handy during the last three days....
Title: Chicks
Post by: Beth C on February 22, 2011, 06:38:53 AM
I got mine at Wal-Mart - think they were about $2. I like that they\'re coated wire - makes them easy to clean. You must have the larger ones. I can fit 6 eggs in mine, but they were a bit cramped when they hatched, so I\'m going to try the treat baskets. Your humidity device cracks me up, but it\'s a great idea!