Ameraucana Breeders Club
The Official Forum of the Ameraucana Breeders Club => Exhibiting & Promoting => Topic started by: Paul on September 21, 2014, 09:09:48 AM
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I'm seeking input from the forum readers. We have been in pursuit of a poultry show to host our 2015 national Ameraucana meet for several months. Sedalia, MO. has held our national twice by two different poultry clubs. The first national ever held in the South-Central district on Oct. 15, 2005. The other national meet was held in Oct. 2012. The Missouri State Poultry Association has agreed to hold our 2015 national on Oct. 24. It is a one day double judged show. We sent request to Hutchinson, Kansas; Ill-MO in Highland, Ill.; Frankfort, Kentucky; Shelbyville, Kentucky; and Fayetteville, Arkansas. There are only two clubs from these interested in hosting our ABC national meet which normally increases a show about 200 head. The other one is the Heart of the Ozarks in Fayetteville, Arkansas. This is also a one day doubled judged show. They can hold 1200. The largest that they have had is 1000. It is the first Saturday in November 7, 2015.
Any and all input on these two, Sedalia, MO.; and Fayetteville, Arkansas poultry shows would be appreciated. We have shown at both! Need to know if you would bring some of your Ameraucanas to support our 2015 national!
Paul Smith
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Paul, I think either would be good. I know Shawnee isn't until mid December but they have a very nice facility. Last year there was over 1200 birds there. Linda and I plan to be there where ever there is. Thanks for all your hard work on getting next year's national placed.
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Missouri would be our preference since it is closer to Colorado ;D
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I would plan to participate at either location.
Duane
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I will not participate in another double judged one day show. But I do respect the opinions of others, so
go ahead and plan the meet in the best way that meets the approval of the majority.
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I would prefer the Missouri location for me due to the closer location and the Oct vs Dec show dates. I was planning on this years nationals, but date conflicts changed my plans. Lucasville is just about the limit for me to travel to shows.
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I don't participate in one day double judged shows so will go with the opinion of others. I'm sure it will be the right decsion for most. Jim
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I will participate wherever it is held. Paul, let me know if I can help with anything.
Mike, I'm curious as to why you choose not to attend a one day double judged show...
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I suspect my reasons are similar to Jim's - and many others. There is not enough time to do everything justice in one day to begin with. And then when you try to squeeze two sets of judging into one day, it can cause judges to hurry through their job, which increases the likelihood of missing things and overlooking others. Also, birds can win in one show and fail to place in the second - I have seen it happen. Not much satisfaction when that happens, nor much confidence in the judging. Finally, I realize shows do this to increase their day's take, but I don't care for the increased entry fees, and I don't like the way it tends to encourage point chasers. For me it has always been about the birds, not the accumulation of points by the exhibitors. I have seen people enter 50 or more birds of one variety (not Ameraucanas btw), none of them prepped to be shown, just so the exhibitor could qualify for more points.
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Thanks for the insight, Mike. That makes sense... I would still attend though just for the camaraderie and to see all the birds. I can't imagine hauling 50+ birds to a show. :o
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I'd like to see Fayetteville get the National. :)
For the first time in years I actually saw a few real Ameraucanas at the County fair. There were still plenty of EE's, but there were a few Ameraucanas there in addition to the few I entered. I think an Ameraucana National held here could promote the interest.
Fayetteville is a very nice, scenic place to visit. Plenty of good restaurants, sports bars, hotels, shopping and places of interest. Also, late October is a perfect time to catch the fall colors.
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How about near the beach and some historical charm? ;)
The Hobby Farmer's Association of the PeeDee has agreed to host our National, if we'd like for them to. Here is a link to their site:
http://www.peedeehfa.org/ (http://www.peedeehfa.org/)
They are APA approved and have held a few poultry shows. Here is a link to their show this year:
http://www.peedeehfa.org/event/pee-dee-poultry-show/ (http://www.peedeehfa.org/event/pee-dee-poultry-show/)
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The Hobby Farmer's Association of the PeeDee has agreed to host our National, if we'd like for them to.
Paul has to place it in his SC (South Central) District and from what I can tell this "Pee Dee" region is in the state of SC, which is in the Eastern District.
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Hi Sharon, is the show in Fayetteville still the 1st week in November?
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I've never been to a double show, sounds like a lot of work.
The beach does sound like fun Susan. But if we go to Arkansas we can take John down to visit the Clinton Library and visit P Allen Smiths place along the river. Some say it's quite the place. I heard that one of our members was there this summer to pick up some Wyandottes.
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I've never been to a double show, sounds like a lot of work.
The beach does sound like fun Susan. But if we go to Arkansas we can take John down to visit the Clinton Library and visit P Allen Smiths place along the river. Some say it's quite the place. I heard that one of our members was there this summer to pick up some Wyandottes.
Oh...that is tempting, Don! Ok, I'm in, save me a seat in the car. LOL
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Hi Sharon, is the show in Fayetteville still the 1st week in November?
November 1st to be exact. Entries close Oct. 18th it says. Guess I need to see if I have anything to bring because time is getting short.
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I've never been to a double show, sounds like a lot of work.
The beach does sound like fun Susan. But if we go to Arkansas we can take John down to visit the Clinton Library and visit P Allen Smiths place along the river. Some say it's quite the place. I heard that one of our members was there this summer to pick up some Wyandottes.
NW Arkansas doesn't have a beach, but it does have a really nice lake just to the north. Might be a little chilly by then for a dip, but the view is nice. If someone is so inclined to visit the library, that's a three hour drive south if you push it. Some also say it looks like a trailer. Actually, it does. A big glass double wide. LOL. Now, Bill and Hillary's first house is in Fayetteville though. I have been driving by another house for years now, and only recently found out that it used to be Bill's getaway summer vacation home. Ha, maybe way back then it would have been a getaway. Today, things have expanded so much it's just a house on a hill on the outskirts of town.
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How about near the beach and some historical charm? ;)
The Hobby Farmer's Association of the PeeDee has agreed to host our National, if we'd like for them to. Here is a link to their site:
http://www.peedeehfa.org/ (http://www.peedeehfa.org/)
They are APA approved and have held a few poultry shows. Here is a link to their show this year:
http://www.peedeehfa.org/event/pee-dee-poultry-show/ (http://www.peedeehfa.org/event/pee-dee-poultry-show/)
Something to file away for when the nationals come back our way. Since our district now spans from Maine to Florida we'll need to be looking for more options. It's a pretty good ways from the beach, but closer to us than all but one of the NC shows - Fuzz & I need to head down and check it out. Has it ever been called as a meet? How many head do they normally have, and what is the max they can accommodate?
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Beth
I think their primary limit right now is due to limited number of exhibition cages and they're planning on acquiring more. Not sure what the capacity of the building is, but I can find out should the need arise. :)
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Sharon, our family has a history of always needing something on vacation, so we Always seemed to end up going to Walmart during our trips wherever we traveled. At least near Fayetteville we can finally go to one of the original Walmarts. Sam Walton's home is pretty famous too and Thorncrown Chapel is near by, both by architect Faye Jones. When in Rome...
Joking aside, I'm sure either MO or AR will be great locations Paul. But the national has been at Sedalia twice, maybe it would be good to give Fayetteville a shot? They may just be hungry enough to give it some extra effort and good ole southern hospitality.
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Sharon, our family has a history of always needing something on vacation, so we Always seemed to end up going to Walmart during our trips wherever we traveled. At least near Fayetteville we can finally go to one of the original Walmarts. Sam Walton's home is pretty famous too and Thorncrown Chapel is near by, both by architect Faye Jones. When in Rome...
Joking aside, I'm sure either MO or AR will be great locations Paul. But the national has been at Sedalia twice, maybe it would be good to give Fayetteville a shot? They may just be hungry enough to give it some extra effort and good ole southern hospitality.
Yes, I believe the original Walmart museum is located in Bentonville which is just north of Fayetteville. There are plenty of Walmart supercenters, Sams Clubs etc., in the area. Fayetteville also has the Walton Arts Center if anyone is into watching plays and such.
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Here is a post from another forum:
"I just got home from a dog show held at Purina Farms in Gray Summit, Mo. This is one heck of a place. I wondered if any clubs in the area checked to see if a poultry show could be held on the premises there. It would be a fantastic place to have a show. Purina went all out on the dog facility, and welcoming the competitors to their farm. They have the competition area covered in a rubber type flooring. Great on the old body. I didn't have enough time to take a tour of the facility, but there seemed to be feed testing facilities for all the different species. They had a poultry barn that looked to be top notch. I wished I had more time to look around. I notice that some of the larger poultry shows are in the same facilities that we use for the dog shows. The grounds in Perry, GA, is another top notch place to have a poultry show.
If you are in the middle of the country, go check out Purina farms just to have something interesting to do for the day. it is a super nice place. Made me think about switching back for Purina for a fleeting moment."
This was followed up by a comment that a poultry show probably would not work there for biosecurity reasons. But it might be worth checking out. Sounds like a great venue.
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I've shown at Purina Farms. The SSLLRC (Spirit of St Louis Labrador Retriever Club) holds their specialty there the last weekend of October and it is a very nice place! I haven't been back since 2009 and they didn't have the building complete yet, but my friends in the SSLLRC tell me it is wonderful.
I will definitely plan on attending, even if I have to walk, if the 2015 show is there - I have LOTS of friends nearby from the Labrador community. Of course, if I'm walking, I might better get started now - it will take me that long just to make it to Don's house outside Charlotte and hope he can give me a ride (or at least some refreshments) for the rest of the way.
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If cooping would be a problem for Purina, here is a thought that might be a little "outside the box."
Why not consider an all Ameraucana or all Ameraucana and Araucana show? I think Ann Charles with her top notch Araucanas would participate. With enough publicity I think it could work. We might have to show up a day or two early to do set-up work. Someone would need to check on facility rent and allay any potential biosecurity concerns that Purina might have. Just an idea to investigate or shoot down.
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Lodging would be my concern. Appears to be only one Travel lodge in Gray Summit. Doesn't look to new either. Sedalia has more pet friendly choices, which would be a must for me if I have to travel. Unless I go alone, which I really wouldn't want to do.
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Now for the recommendations of using Purina Farms facilities for our 2015 National-What Poultry Show Club is holding a show there?
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Now for the recommendations of using Purina Farms facilities for our 2015 National-What Poultry Show Club is holding a show there?
That would have to be us. Some of us might have to bring our own or borrowed/rented cooping. Maybe Purina could be persuaded to purchase and provide some. Those are details that would have to be worked out. It would not hurt to ask Purina - they can only say no, and who knows - they might agree. I do like the idea of a one (or two) breed show if it can be arranged. The Rocks and Reds used to do that - two breeds - maybe they still do, I don't know.
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I would like to see it held at Fayetteville Ar. Or Shawnee Ok.
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For purely selfish reasons I'd love for it to be in Prague, since I have friends in the area, but Fayetteville works well for me, too. But I'll go with whatever works for the most people.
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Shawnee, OK. wasn't considered. It is a great show. One of my favorites, but it is too late (2nd weekend in Dec.) and too far South for many of our Northern members to attend.
Prague is also too far South and being a small relative new show probably couldn't handle the increase in birds that the ABC national meet should bring.
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Paul,
Jeff and I have discussed the next national meet, and where ever you decide we will plan on being there! hopefully with plenty of chickens. Had such a great time. We figure this will be our vacation every year from now on.
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i second that this was our first national. It was awesome and so were the people. We will also be there
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Oops, that was a slip, I meant to say Shawnee. I have friends in Prague, OK, one town over. :-[ But you're right, that would be a long haul for a lot of people in both the north and the east. It's about 22 hours for me, more than I would normally want to do if I didn't have another reason to go to Oklahoma. I'm okay with whatever works for the majority and I will try my best to make it.