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Breeding / Re: Tailsets in young and old birds
« Last post by Susan Mouw on July 27, 2020, 08:50:58 PM »
Wow, Gordon!  That's very nice that you kept him that long and are still getting fertility out of him.  Solomon, my Grand CH, was just a year older (2016 hatch) and he's dried completely up. :)

But he's going to be around for as long as he lives - he's staying here, along with a few of his favorite hens.
A fraudulent account impersonating the ABC has sent an email to a few of our members soliciting monies for a fundraising campaign.

The account does not belong to the ABC and it has been reported.

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Breeding / Re: Using a blue Ameraucana in a self blue Ameraucana pen
« Last post by Lindsay Helton on July 14, 2020, 02:35:51 PM »
Yes, they can carry the Lavender gene depending on the genetic make up of the bird. The Blue (Bl) gene and the Lavender gene (Lav) are two different genes. Two copies of the Lav gene (one from each parent) are required for the self blue (lavender) plumage color to be expressed.
Breeding / Re: Using a blue Ameraucana in a self blue Ameraucana pen
« Last post by Penny McDonald on July 14, 2020, 01:16:19 PM »
Can blue and/or splash hide self-blue? 
Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Bird prep and what not
« Last post by Stephan Roaque on July 14, 2020, 10:43:40 AM »
Thanks all to the replies. I’m more looking for what you all do. We have used the 3 bucket route for a few years now. Just wanted to get some extra tips or tricks that may help us. I will look at the links and ask questions as they come along. So again thanks!
Breeding / Re: Cross beak in poultry
« Last post by Birdcrazy on July 14, 2020, 12:57:47 AM »
Thanks Lindsay for the above exerts from articles on cross beak birds. Thankfully it has been several years since I have had any chicks with this problem. Perhaps part of this issue for me was I used to hatch well over 1000 chicks a year, but the last few years my yearly hatches have been in the 200-300 range. When I did have an issue it was usually only 2-3 chicks out of the higher numbers that I was hatching those years. Symptoms would start to show up at a week or two of age and gradually worsen as the chick grew older. I came to the conclusion that it was a waste of time and feed, and inhumane as as the chicks approached maturity, many succumbed with eating and drinking disorders. Thus my approach has been to dispose as soon as the condition is found. I have read many articles over the years on the cause of this disorder. Anywhere from genetics, incubation problems, even to the type of feed that was given to chicks after hatching. I never did come to a conclusion as this stopped happening as my hatch numbers decreased over the past few years. If this would start to pop up again, your articles would give a good source to start research on the subject again.
Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Northwoods Poultry Fanciers Club Show
« Last post by Lindsay Helton on July 13, 2020, 10:57:48 PM »
The website and database has been updated to reflect the change in venue and address.
This meet has been updated to reflect the change in venue and address.
Breeding / Cross beak in poultry
« Last post by Lindsay Helton on July 13, 2020, 09:59:12 PM »
I have come across several posts recently asking questions about cross beak and its origin. Numerous scientific studies have been completed on the subject. I reviewed several of the scientific studies that are available on cross beak and summarized the results below.

W. Landauer reported that the frequency of eye abnormalities with cross beak present is greatly influenced by incubation temperatures (Landauer, 1937). Landauer carried out several test matings of affected stock and found it impossible to produce a true-breeding cross billed fowl, despite considerable inbreeding (Landauer, 1938). In 1941, Landauer identified a lethal mutation in fowl that produces a shortening of the upper beak and of the long bones of the extremities. He reported the mutation to be recessive, autosomal and semi-lethal. In the experiments he completed, most homozygous embryos died near the end of the incubation period, but about 13% of all homozygotes hatched. The degree of shortening of the upper beak and of the long bones was variable. In roughly 50% of “short upper beak” chicks the beak became normal during growth. In the remaining 50%, a cross beak developed. (Landauer, 1941).

Hutt (1949) and Pflugfelder (1961) reported that there are non-hereditary deformed beaks associated with unilateral microphthalmia or anophthalmia in chick embryos. Hutt noted in his research findings that most cross beak cases that occur because of these conditions are never seen because the chicks die during the later stages of incubation. Hutt reported this abnormality most likely results from an accident in development, sometimes induced by an unfavorable environment. (Hutt, 1949).

Pflugfelder set up matings of 12 hens and 5 cocks affected with unilateral microphthalmia or anophthalmia to determine if the deformed beak that occurs with these conditions is hereditary. All the offspring obtained from his experiment were normal and he concluded that this type of cross beak was not genetic. (Pflugfelder, 1961).

Moriyuki Watanabe completed a small-scale study to explore non-hereditary causes of cross beak. He found that variations in incubator temperature due to interruptions in electrical current were causal of the condition. (Watanabe, 1966).

A breeding trial performed on Appenzeller Barthuhn chickens, a breed believed to have a genetic predisposition to cross beak, showed significantly higher prevalence of offspring with deformed beaks from the mating of parent stock with cross beak present compared to the mating of non-affected parents. The mating of parent stock with cross beak resulted in 67 (80.7%) offspring with normal beaks and 13 (15.7%) with cross beak. The mating of parent stock with normal beaks resulted in 95 (93.1%) offspring having normal beaks and 3 (2.9%) having cross beak. The findings elude to a possible hereditary cause of cross beak, but variations in the phenotype and inconclusive molecular genetic results indicates the need for additional research. (Joller et al., 2018).

A scientific study completed in 2019 on Huiyang bearded chickens found that expression levels of bone morphogenetic protein 4 (MBP4) in the craniofacial bones was associated with the occurrence of cross beak. The expression of MBP4 was highest in chicks that had severe cross beak followed in succession by those with moderate and minimal cross beak. This study provided insight into the potential role of BMP4 in the development of this congenital abnormality. (Hong et al., 2019).

A scientific study was completed on congenital anomalies by A. Azizpour in 2019. A total of 1,796,863 broiler chicks were examined during this study. 1,740,832 chicks were labeled as normal at hatch and 56,031 chicks were identified as having a congenital anomaly. Cross beak was identified in 27.43% of the chicks that had a congenital anomaly present. Azizpour reported that genetics and management factors were causal of cross beak. (Azizpour, 2019).

In summary, a few of the factors that have been found to be associated with and/or causal of cross beak are incubation temperatures and fluctuations, hereditary factors, accidents in development, bone morphogenetic protein 4 and management factors.


Azizpour, Aidin. (2019). A Study on Congenital Anomalies in Hatched Broiler Chickens at the End of the Incubation Period. 10.22092/vj.2018.123598.1505.

Hong, Y.; Pang, Y.; Zhao, H.; Chen, S.; Tan, S.; Xiang, H.; Yu, H.; Li, H. The Morphology of Cross-Beaks and BMP4 Gene Expression in Huiyang Bearded Chickens. Animals 2019, 9, 1143.

Hutt, F.B. 1949. Genetics of the Fowl. 1st ed. pp. 43-44. McGraw-Hill Book Comp. INC.

Joller, Sara & Bertschinger, Flurina & Kump, Erwin & Spiri, Astrid & Rotz, Alois & Schweizer-Gorgas, Daniela & Drögemüller, Cord & Flury, Christine. (2018). Crossed Beaks in a Local Swiss Chicken Breed. BMC Veterinary Research. 14. 10.1186/s12917-018-1398-z.

Landauer W. A Semi-lethal Mutation in Fowl Affecting Length of the Upper Beak and of the Long Bones. Genetics. 1941;26(4):426-439.

Landauer, W. Notes on Cross-beak in Fowl. Journ. of Genetics 37, 51–68 (1938).

PFLUGFELDER, 0. 1961. Nichterblich Kreuzschnabelbildungen beim Haushuhn. Roux' Arch. Entw. 152: 655-661.

Watanabe, Moriyuki. 1966. Non-hereditary Crooked Beaks in Poultry. Department of Animal Husbandry, Faculty of Fisheries and Animal Husbandry, Hiroshima University. 6: 339-34.
Exhibiting & Promoting / Northwoods Poultry Fanciers Club Show
« Last post by Birdcrazy on July 12, 2020, 05:34:36 PM »
ATTENTION!!!     We have just been notified of a change of venue for the Northwoods Poultry Fanciers Club Show from Merrill, WI to the Wisconsin Valley Fairgrounds 1201 Stewart Ave, Wausau, WI. The dates remain the same (Friday Sept 11 check in 3:30-9:00 pm)(Saturday Sept 12 check in 7:00-9:00am). Coop out is Saturday after awards. Coop Fee is $3.50 Open Show and $3.00 Junior Show. Cleanup Fee of $5:00 per exhibitor. Note testing of birds is waved due to the shortage of Pullorum Antigen. 2020 Catalog and Entry download forms are available now at Poultry Show Central and Northwoods Poultry Fanciers Club Show location. Cutoff date for entries is post mark by August 25, 2020
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