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Breeding / Re: Quality vs Quantity
« Last post by Lindsay Helton on May 22, 2020, 09:48:41 PM »
These are chicks that we purchased. How long would you say it takes for the Wheaten/Blue Wheaten to finish out? What are your thoughts on purchasing a trio as well? Or would that be too much? Thank you for the advice and your time.
Stephan

Wheaten and blue wheaten are very slow to develop. Males can take up to a year to finish out. I recommend growing them all out so you can become familiar with the line you are working with. That is how we learn. Cull for any disqualifications and for poor type along the way. Females will finish a little sooner and are usually ready to show at around 8 months of age.
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Breeding / Re: Quality vs Quantity
« Last post by Lindsay Helton on May 22, 2020, 09:41:09 PM »
Afternoon,
This has always been a topic that I feel should be talked about more often. And maybe it does. I have set personal goals to not only to breed my birds towards the standard but also be breed quality. Susan Mouw posted recently in regards to this on the FB Ameraucana page. What I want to ask those that have done it respectively is at what point do you draw the line at quality vs quantity? To be more specific when do you or how do you try to not to stray away from quality? Breeders can get pressured to produce volume, its up to the breeder to dictate(in my opinion) how much to sell as far as eggs and day old chicks. I have two birds now that are poor quality. And I am bummed about that. But I have some new ones now from two other breeders that I hope to correct the situation I am currently in. What advice or tips can you give? Please. Thanks. This is for discussion not argument please. Thank you for your time.

Stephan,

To maintain quality, always focus on it first and foremost. There will not be any pressure to produce volume if you do not allow there to be pressure.

A true “breeder” always focuses on quality over quantity when it comes to selling hatching eggs, chicks and started birds. Now, to maintain and improve quality in your line, you will need to produce quantity when hatching and raising birds on the farm. Most breeders with a good line hope for around 50% of birds produced to be worthy of breeding and around 10%-25% produced to be show quality. That means in a batch of 20, hopefully 10 will be worthy of making it to a breeding pen and a handful worthy of showing. Sometimes those numbers are smaller. Many breeders will only keep the show quality birds for their breeding pens the following season.
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Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Large Fowl Splash Process
« Last post by Lindsay Helton on May 22, 2020, 09:26:47 PM »
What was the verdict on this color variety?

We are pursuing acceptance for large fowl splash Stephan. The effort will be a lengthy and exciting process. I hope you will be able to participate!

If you are interested in learning more about what goes into getting a color variety approved with the APA, visit the following link:

http://amerpoultryassn.com/sample-page/apa-breeds-varieties/adding-a-new-variety/
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Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Large Fowl Splash Process
« Last post by Stephan Roaque on May 22, 2020, 07:48:17 PM »
What was the verdict on this color variety?
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Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: Pet Carriers / Show Boxes
« Last post by Stephan Roaque on May 22, 2020, 07:46:59 PM »
Do any of you guys have the dimensions for the LF show boxes? Thinking of having a friend that does woodwork make some for us. Thanks!
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Breeding / Re: Quality vs Quantity
« Last post by Stephan Roaque on May 22, 2020, 07:41:38 PM »
These are chicks that we purchased. How long would you say it takes for the Wheaten/Blue Wheaten to finish out? What are your thoughts on purchasing a trio as well? Or would that be too much? Thank you for the advice and your time.
Stephan
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Breeding / Re: Quality vs Quantity
« Last post by Birdcrazy on May 20, 2020, 09:08:01 PM »
Stephan, I wish you well with your new Ameraucana purchase. Were these chicks, started birds or adult? If they were chicks or started birds, don't cull your Wheaten/Blue Wheaten too early unless you find immediate DQ
traits. Wheaten/Blue Wheaten have a tendency to mature later than Blacks and Blues. Just keep one eye on the birds and the other eye on the SOP! I hope your kids raise some show winners!
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Breeding / Re: Quality vs Quantity
« Last post by Stephan Roaque on May 20, 2020, 06:16:26 PM »
Gordon,
 Congrats on the success! That's great! With the birds we have now that I mentioned we did pretty well with so far at the shows. But that's before I saw the leakage. hahaha! So we shall see. I bought some Blue,Blacks, Wheatens and Blue Wheatens and hope to have some good products from those. I am excited about the challenge to breed and achieve a goal like you. Its funny you mention predators killing the cream of the crop. It seems like things whether it be predators or not seem to do that with all very good stock. Horses included! Some good horses have died on the ranch of some people we know by just a regular lightning strike. And I lost my best hound to a car hitting him. So its tough for sure. Good luck to ya this showing season! Hope to meet you down the road.
Stephan
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Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: South East District Meets
« Last post by Don on May 20, 2020, 04:32:02 PM »
I am sure some of the fall shows are trying to see their way clear to have shows this fall. We will see how that works out as the summer and fall firm up. I know the Virginia Poultry Breeders have a meet this fall that is planned to proceed at this point.  And I heard that the Winston Salem NC show is putting their show together, I don't think they've hired judges just yet. And this is a popular show with some in the NC and adjoining areas. That show is always the saturday after Thanksgiving. I will post this as soon as I hear back from the show staff and hope for the best. 

Most fall shows in the SE region are the weekends late Oct to the second week in Dec. Let me know If you see a show that you want to attend. We can talk about the others who might be able to bolster a meet at that location. I don't know if there are many active shows in your area besides Anderson SC. That is a bantam club but I have been told that they decided to buy LF cages which will be great for the Ameraucana breeders finally.   Take a look at the Poultry Show Central source. Always confirm dates with the show secretary especially with the unknowns we are dealing with at this time.

There is a show in Morganton NC though I've not seen more than a couple AMs shown there thru the years.

 https://www.poultryshowcentral.com/South_Carolina.html
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Exhibiting & Promoting / Re: South East District Meets
« Last post by Birdcrazy on May 20, 2020, 02:16:16 PM »
Michelle, you have one ace in the hole! You do not have to be present to win the new member drawing at the ABC National show in Norman OK. It would be great to see you there, but hopefully your schedule will work out to make some closer shows. Good luck on the drawing!
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