It's okay DeWayne, as Jeff does have three pretty good male birds. He is just looking for something that would be a major improvement to what he has. Did you get the five brown reds home? The two females are pretty young yet, but the 3rd pullet is laying. In the show the smaller cockerel took BV and the pullet RV. All three females have pretty good chest lacing, but none are up to standard size. You should consider using the larger male with them first, even though the one in the show has the better temperament. Good luck with them!