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Christie Merrill

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Please help with incubation
« on: January 07, 2015, 08:38:24 PM »
We have a GQF 1502 Sportsman with a hatching tray on the bottom. Should we save eggs for three weeks then incubate them, or is it okay to add a batch to one shelf each week and hatch them at different times?

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Kevin

John

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Re: Please help with incubation
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2015, 08:46:47 PM »
With 3 setting trays and one hatch basket setting eggs once a week works well.

Christie Merrill

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Re: Please help with incubation
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2015, 09:08:37 PM »
Do I increase the humidity? If so, it would be increased for three days each week.

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Re: Please help with incubation
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2015, 11:19:27 PM »
The sportsman type unit was designed to continuously incubate and hatch eggs every week or two and lots of folks use them that way.  You will have to bump the humidity hard for the last 4 days or so to have the humidity for the hatching tray. Getting the 75% target this time of year is tough unless you have it in a damp basement.  Some folks use a small hovabator for hatching. 

Its great if you can buy another incubator of some sort for hatching to avoid the mess and cross contamination from the hatching eggs and drying chicks.  Its amazing how much down they shed the first few days and the fan will pick this up and distribute throughout the whole incubator.  The down will cover the water tray and clog any moisture pads as well as coat the other eggs.  Humidity will drop until you clean it all again.  If you decide to go this route, you might want to clean the unit pretty thoroughly when you pull the last chicks of each hatch.     Good Luck with your hatch!
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Tailfeathers

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Re: Please help with incubation
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2015, 06:35:39 AM »
I have a Sportsman 1502.  I set every Saturday.  Move to hatching tray and candle every Wednesday.  I never mess with the humidity.  I keep it at 50-52.  Don't open the door unless absolutely necessary and shut as quickly as I can.  I'll spritz the eggs I put in the hatching tray just to get the humidity back up quickly after opening the door.  The humidity rises on it's own as the chicks start hatching.

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Christie Merrill

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Re: Please help with incubation
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2015, 08:03:39 PM »
Thanks for all the great advice! I think we will set eggs every three weeks to see how it turns out.  We are worried about cleaning while there are other eggs incubating. Just want to play it safe until we get the hang of this hatching thing. We have a basement to store our eggs. It's generally between 55 and 70 degrees, and is kind of damp. We are also using our automatic egg turner and have a couple of cartons that we turn three times per day (i.e. morning, evening, and at bed time). Is this enough turning for stored eggs? We are also thinking about using our old Styrofoam incubator for hatching every week after our first three week batch is done. We can always switch back to setting every three weeks.

Finally, we are having trouble keeping the humidity between 50-52%. Most of the time it is between 48-54%, and it has gotten as low as 44% and and high as 58%. Is this okay? 

Tailfeathers, how do you keep you humidity at 50-52? We add water about every three days, and I have to place a sponge part of the way in the tray on the second day. How in the world am I gonna get the humidity up to 75%? We won't be as concerned in the spring, because of our climate her in the Southern Appalachian Mountains.

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Re: Please help with incubation
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 05:10:36 AM »
Kevin, I don't know if by setting every 3wks you also mean to store eggs for 3wks before setting them but, if so, I don't recommend that.  I know I've set eggs as old as 15dys but I usually don't like to set any older than 10dys at the most. 

I don't clean my incubator until the end of hatching or just before I start.  I do pull the aluminum tray out and wash it after each hatching.  But that's it.

I only turn my stored eggs 2-3x a day. 

I have my Sportsman in the house.  Only way I could find to keep the Temp constant.  To keep the humidity between 50-52, I just close off the vents in the back until it holds.  I also have the 5gal reservoir sitting on top the incubator.  So the water tray stays pretty full all the time.  Depending on the humidity there, you may or may not have to leave the sponge in all the time. 

I don't think I've ever seen the humidity hit 75% with the possible exception of once when the float stuck and I woke up to 5gal of water all over the floor.  I know I've also let the water run dry (nobody's ever accused me of being the brightest bulb in the socket) and seen the humidity dip into the mid-30's.  Personally, I don't sweat it.  I figure the weather under a broody is never perfectly constant and they get off the eggs at times so as long as it's not prolonged for days, I doubt there'd be a problem.  At least I've not experienced one.  I get very few quitters.  Most eggs that don't hatch are blanks though I will say that I've noticed a higher percentage of quitters of all my breeds in the very porous Ameraucana and Buckeye eggs.

Hope that helps...

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John

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Re: Please help with incubation
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 10:20:15 AM »
Check out some of these older treads for some ideas...
http://ameraucanabreedersclub.org/forum/index.php?topic=2182.0
http://ameraucanabreedersclub.org/forum/index.php?topic=1704.0

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How in the world am I gonna get the humidity up to 75%?

GQF Instructions say...
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"Recommended humidity level for most eggs is 45—55% setting and 55—65% hatching. Setting the humidity over 65% is not recommended."
The more surface area of water the more humidity, so pans of water in the hatchery room help or a humidifier if needed.  A wick in the incubator helps, but making the vent holes smaller will really increase the humidity.

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we turn three times per day (i.e. morning, evening, and at bed time). Is this enough turning for stored eggs?
Once a day is all that is needed.  A 60 degree room with plenty of humidity works.  You can see in the photo I have 3 large water pans on the portable egg storage rack (on casters) to add humidity to the room so the eggs hopefully won’t dry down.  There are also some pails and pans with water in the room to boost humidity.
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Mike Gilbert

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Re: Please help with incubation
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 02:14:54 PM »
 Here is a handy reference to help troubleshoot incubation and management problems.

http://msucares.com/poultry/reproductions/trouble.html#RN

I sat 85 eggs on January 4th, candled them twice now and have 75 healthy embryos scheduled to come off Sunday or Monday morning (depends on thermometer calibration).   Then I sat 40 more on the 11th, of which 35 are good so far.   Pretty fair results considering the time of year, short days, no extra lighting, and the cold weather we had when I was saving eggs.   Many of these will go to local kids for 4-H projects.   I'll hatch more for myself in late February or March. 
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