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Debra Keen

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Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« on: July 31, 2021, 02:00:08 PM »
What can you tell me about red showing up on the wings of a 4-month old blue cockerel...is this a defect that happens, wheaten in the woodpile, etc.? I got some blue chicks earlier this year but quickly realized they aren't the quality I want to work with (fortunately was able to recently get some from a well-known breeder that look much nicer.) I won't be keeping the first batch with no lacing and the red showing up in the cockerels but just curious about it.

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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2021, 02:16:56 PM »
Debra,

Can you post a photo of what you are referring to?

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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2021, 01:18:28 PM »
This is the first blue cockerel with the odd-colored feathers.

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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2021, 01:24:11 PM »
Wing closeup

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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2021, 01:34:23 PM »
Click on the pics to see better. The other one has literally ONE off-colored feather! Again...not wanting to keep or breed these guys nor am I interested in finger pointing! Just very interested in color genetics and how/why this might have occurred in a group of BBS chicks.

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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2021, 02:29:02 PM »
Understandable. We are all just here to learn.

You made the right decision to not breed them. That is considerable leakage. Color leakage happens when a bird is not fully melanized. We should select against it.
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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2021, 02:58:28 PM »
Thanks...I thought leakage but wasn't sure that was the right term.  Stock supposed to have originally come from a good/known breeder but I think a lot of back yard breeding and no showing has happened since then (I use that term as I come from the dog show/breeding world; it's as if someone got a puppy from show lines then bred indiscriminately with no "quality control.") Not intending to be mean...sweet person, sweet birds...just nothing to work with. Does a fair amount of leakage show up in good blue lines or is this unusual? Not obsessing...again, just curiosity as I grow up my new bunch.

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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2021, 05:22:48 PM »
You’re welcome. I did a post a while back under the breeding section about purchasing quality Ameraucana. It may be of help if you purchase any other birds in the future.

http://ameraucanabreedersclub.org/forum/index.php/topic,4161.0.html

No, in my experience, considerable color leakage (like above) does not show up in good lines of blue. I have not encountered any color leakage in the line of blues I’m working with thus far. Granted, I’m only two years back in with the blue, black and splash varieties. I started working with them again since we are seeking approval for large fowl splash. Sometimes a good line may throw a bird with a little color leakage here or there, but typically not to that extent.
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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2021, 05:34:19 PM »
Thanks, Lindsay! I've actually read every thread and post several times. :-) It's great to see so much educational info out there now, and you've contributed so much of it. I knew I was probably making a mistake when I got these...I used to have birds from Paul but got out of chickens for a few years . I just got in a hurry to add a few blue eggers and tried these instead of waiting for one of the people I knew I should wait for.  ::)  I knew better and now have some chicks from a good line. Was just curious about those "colorful" feathers showing up, having never seen them previously in my blue birds.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2021, 05:44:06 PM by Debra Keen »

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Re: Red (leakage?) on blue cockerel wings
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2021, 06:24:47 PM »
You’re welcome Debra. :)
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